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thats true my nissan 240 with its 2.4L I4 sucked for gas mileage my escape gets better mileage.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
WRXs actually get sort of BAD gas mileage.
Considering that it is a 4-banger, yes the gas mileage is absolutely horrible.
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2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 5.1 13.8 This info was found on This Site
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Originally posted by Rishodi:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
WRXs actually get sort of BAD gas mileage.
Considering that it is a 4-banger, yes the gas mileage is absolutely horrible.
Thats what I thought at first too. Then I considered that its AWD.....  might not be so bad after all.
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Originally posted by XKontour98:
Originally posted by Rishodi:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
WRXs actually get sort of BAD gas mileage.
Considering that it is a 4-banger, yes the gas mileage is absolutely horrible.
Thats what I thought at first too. Then I considered that its AWD..... might not be so bad after all.
The AWD certainly doesn't help the MPG, but even w/o AWD most large I4 engines don't get good mileage. Nissan's 2.5L that they use in the Altima and Sentra for instance, just ask most folks who drive those vehicles, they do not do well for MPG in "real world" driving. "Rating" wise they do look better on paper, because the CAFE ratings are still at 55MPH for highway, and short shifting/light throttle for the city MPG. IMHO the 55MPH is no longer realistic (should be 70MPH), and these days it seems like everyone throttles off lights pretty hard no matter what the time of day so there goes your rated city MPG. YMMV.
If you want really good MPG and actually want to see a real difference from a $$$ perspective, buy a hybrid or a diesel or a Civic VX or something along that line.
I get anywhere from 18-20MPG with mostly city driving in my Alty SE-R, never been on a trip in it so I have no idea what entirely highway driving would net. That 18-20MPG is with me having a fairly heavy foot to boot. I'd imagine if I short shifted every time and stayed off the throttle I could get up into the low 20's city. My daily drive consists of a trip to the train station which is roughly 7 miles from my house, barely enough time for the engine to warm up, so that 18-20MPG isn't bad at all IMHO.
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Good point. I was at the mall last weekend and they had an Altima 2.5 on display and I was surprised with the poor fuel economy! The 3.5L is pretty close in comparison! Why bother with the 2.5!
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Originally posted by XKontour98:
Good point. I was at the mall last weekend and they had an Altima 2.5 on display and I was surprised with the poor fuel economy! The 3.5L is pretty close in comparison! Why bother with the 2.5!
You know it's funny you say that. Mostly it's price point. I remember when I was shopping for cars, I was trying to look at cheap more basic transportation, like Civics, 4 cylinder Accords, and at the time there was a leasr special on the 4 cylinder Altima SL model for like 149/month with 1500 down or something like that. We drove that model and we liked it. I was driving the SVTC at that point. I had the dealer give me trade in value on it (of course they always try and rape you on that). So I'm trying to be good and we're in the dealership pricing things out, and there's the Altima SE-R on the showroom floor. My wife says something like, "You know you're never going to be happy with this car, let's go drive that one." Next thing you know. We had to go just then due to time constraints but I drove the SE-R and loved it the following day. Two days later we leased the SE-R instead. I'm certain I'd get high 20's MPG on the highway w/o trying, maybe at some point we'll be able to roadtrip in it. 
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Why would anyone ever choose to lease a vehicle ?? 
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Originally posted by SVT25:
Why would anyone ever choose to lease a vehicle ??
Because I have no interest in paying any more than what I use of a vehicle, I want to drive a new vehicle every few years, and my business takes the lease as an expense.
Basic rule in life: you buy assets and you rent liabilities
Never confuse any daily driver as an asset. I take the extra two hundred I save each month by not buying a liability and I fund more into a 529 plan for my kids college educations. Granted the business could "buy" my liability, but what advantage is there for the business to do so? I need to maintain a certain amount of expenses to offset business revenues, the best/easiest way for me to do so is to lease a vehicle and have the business pay for it.
For most folks, leasing probably isn't a good option because they do not have the discipline to save the additional money that would otherwise be spent on a larger payment, combined with the fact that supposedly they will keep the car long term. So in that case you'd lease the car, then end up buying it after lease termination, and paying more interest over the life of the car than if they just bought it from the outset. Not good. If your plan is to keep the car long term, then buy it by all means. Most folks that I know buy their cars over 4-6 year periods of time, then after they finally get done buying the car, when they finally no longer have the liability payment, they go commit themselves to five more years of liability payments when they buy a brand new car. People like that are better off leasing IMHO.
Me, my 529 plan has averaged 20% per year return over the last three years, last time I checked my car didn't do that well for me, because it's a liability that loses value over time. That's me, most folks I find don't make decisions like I do when it comes to business and finances however, and are not disciplined enough to pay themselves first in life.
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Originally posted by cjbaldw:
Most folks that I know buy their cars over 4-6 year periods of time, then after they finally get done buying the car, when they finally no longer have the liability payment, they go commit themselves to five more years of liability payments when they buy a brand new car. People like that are better off leasing IMHO.
I think that is most folks in general. With the exception of my parents who pay cash for a cars, a lot more people finance than they probably should. I can't recall how many people I know who are making never-ending payments on cars because once their financing is over, they get a new car. Heck, most of them don't even wait that long, they roll over the negative equity. 
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