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Originally posted by Woodencross:
"decent" and "rappers" in the same sentence? HAHA!!




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nope ever since the east coast/west coast wars ended everythign kinda continued on then slowly dropped down hill

now anybody can rap, its like geeze these ppl suck how in the hell did they get a record deal ,

i converted i dont listen to rap anymore b/c it is soo bad , if i do listen to rap is old school to late 90s stuff



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Awsome. This has been productive. Keep it up guys. Im getting some good stuff here.


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Of course there are decent, amazing, hugely talented hip hop artists out there. Take a trip through the streets of London, Copenhagen, or Berlin during the summer when all sorts of artists start performing in the streets and any producer with common sense can see the untapped potential is so vibrant. The UK in particular is BOOMING in terms of artistic expression in hip hop.

I actually see hip hop evolving; yes i said it. Let me side step for a second.

There is so much cluttered music on the radios that comes from "who knows who", and throwing some lyrics into a hit machine that churns out what the general public wants. People as individuals are smart. People in groups... Well you get the point.

So back on track to how i see hip hop evolving. For a moment think of Kanye West. Some people hate him, some people love him. But it is almost undeniable that the man is taking some very different approaches from the medium when it comes to lyrics, and beats.

Whether you hate his music or not is not my point, hip hop is expression of self; in poetry, hate, love and everything in between much like any genre of music. It evolves when suppression of artistic skill ceases. Just because there are horrible examples (and good) on the radio doesn't mean hip hop has died, it means mainstream hip hop has been turned into a commercial commodity.

I personally like (and i believe this is what the post asked for) Mos Def, Common, Talib Kwali, Kanye West (as a producer) The Roots ... i can list many, but these are pretty well known.


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Mike Jones, Eminem, 50, Jay-Z, Nas, Missy, Will Smith, They all have great beats on there records. Ludacris is one of my favorites though. Mase is also. (as long as hes not singing with p diddy)

But i still love the days of run dmc, public enemy, epmd, das efex, Biz markie, grand masta fllash, montell jordan. And you cant forget Wu-tang clan and coolio

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Pharcyde PWNZ!!!!!! Genius lyrics!!!!!



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All this talk about rappers makes me wonder...

Did Juvenile, Master P, LIL wayne, C murder and such make it out of NO?

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Originally posted by Kinda SteedaSan:
All this talk about rappers makes me wonder...

Did Juvenile, Master P, LIL wayne, C murder and such make it out of NO?




i think c murder is in prison. I believe he shot and killed somebody.


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lol @ these threads on a largely conservative message board. most of the people on this site know nothing about hip hop/rap culture outside of the over-publicized stuff. they're probably still spinning john denver oldies, maybe hall and oates when they want to get jiggy with it.


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Originally posted by Red92784:
What happened to the days when you got on MTV, and the radio because you actually had tallent? Not because a few million teenagers bought your CD to listen to your one hit song that you diddn't even write yourself.





came an gone well not shure if it ever came but its definitly gone now


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