ok, now that we have had this debate about which one is better, who really cares? ya i want some zaino, but too lazy to do the 827314092837421908374 step process. then again, so is meguiar's. so, after all is said and done. after that many steps, i don't care if you used your poop to wax your car, it better look that good. after all, you did just spend who knows how many countless hours on it. just my 2 cents... :rolleyes: