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Originally posted by Blevans:
I never said "conspiracy" I think the word should be "incompetency" from the top to the bottom. Both liberals and conservatives screwed up royally!!! I don't think The media created the dead bodies I have seen on TV, and reports from individuals I know that live NorEast of the flooded area. Mississippi and Alabama were hit very hard also and their help did not have to go thru flooded areas but their aid was also far too slow. Justify that if you can!
BTW could Haliburton be that large because they have gotten "special consideration" on contracts for years?
And no I am not a Liberal/Democtrat! We look like total FOOLS to the entire world!
If we can't take care of our own country how can we tell the rest of the world to run theirs.
I don't know if we have accepted any of the foreign aid offered, but I do know that with some countries it will be an insult if we refuse their help.
I lived in hurricane zone my entire life. Hurricane Diane, Fran, Bertha. Any of those ring a bell. I don't think you realize that relief on this type of scale has never been dealt with. Just look at hurricanes from recent past. Most of relief comes from the state or local level shortly after a hurricane. Not the federal government level. Sure FEMA comes in and helps out but this is usually a few days after and they usually have access to the area via roads and can bring in equipment fairly easy. I was in the local volunteer Fire Dept and we brought aid to the people. We cleared the roads of the tree, we got to the people that needed aid. You have to realize that every local agency that normally helps in this type of situation CAN'T. Plus, I don't ever remember Wal-Mart bringing us any water. Just remember that the government is not the major provider of "initial" help in these types of situations. The local government is.
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Originally posted by DopePope:
you are wrong, liberals and conservatives did not screw up, the entire political spectrum of this country has nothing to do with it. The people that screwed up are the idiots in LA that don't know what they are doing.
Forget about NOLA!
How about the "idiots" that live in Mississippi and Alabama,
What did they do wrong to cause the delays? They did not have the flood waters to hinder aid. The homes, businesses and hotels blown to the ground we all saw on TV were "no credible evidence"? There is no way this can be justified!
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Originally posted by Blevans:
...BTW could Haliburton be that large because they have gotten "special consideration" on contracts for years?
Learn and be free:
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york070903.asp
It's dated back to '03, but discusses the BS that has been floated around about Haliburton. Don't you find it ODD that Clinton went against the LOGCAP award structure during his presidency and went with KBR/Haliburton just because they felt that Dyncorp (the LOGCAP contract holder at the time) couldn't do HALF the job the KBR/haliburton could?
Or is this a case where you will "laud" Clinton for going against the contract in support of "Big Oil" and then turn around and chastise Bush for following procedure?
If so, grab your "hypocrisy" cap and slap it on for the remainder of Bush's term in office...
That's not to say they haven't screwed up in places or pulled some zingers every now and then, but the brush that many idiots paint them with is far too broad and entirely partisan...
Do a search on LOGCAP and take a look through the GAO website if you are "willing" to learn more.
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The worst part is that Halliburton actually manufactured the hurricane in one of their eastern atlantic natural disaster plants. 
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How did the federal government 'screw up'? It took four days to get stuff down there and troops down there. That's pretty damn good IMO. If you realize what kind of logistics are involved etc etc. The only 'bad' thing I think that has happened at the Federal leave is the beaucracy (sp?) with FEMA and the intitial push. Something that I'm sure has been quickly fixed. BTW, Mexico just rolled a few conveys of kitchen and water treatment into texas and is on its way to Houston and/or San Antonio. Originally posted by Blevans:
I never said "conspiracy" I think the word should be "incompetency" from the top to the bottom. Both liberals and conservatives screwed up royally!!! I don't think The media created the dead bodies I have seen on TV, and reports from individuals I know that live NorEast of the flooded area. Mississippi and Alabama were hit very hard also and their help did not have to go thru flooded areas but their aid was also far too slow. Justify that if you can!
BTW could Haliburton be that large because they have gotten "special consideration" on contracts for years?
And no I am not a Liberal/Democtrat! We look like total FOOLS to the entire world!
If we can't take care of our own country how can we tell the rest of the world to run theirs.
I don't know if we have accepted any of the foreign aid offered, but I do know that with some countries it will be an insult if we refuse their help.
You need to re-read his statement. He is talking about the Mayor / Governor level 'idiots' which I completely agree with.
Originally posted by Blevans:
Originally posted by DopePope:
you are wrong, liberals and conservatives did not screw up, the entire political spectrum of this country has nothing to do with it. The people that screwed up are the idiots in LA that don't know what they are doing.
Forget about NOLA!
How about the "idiots" that live in Mississippi and Alabama,
What did they do wrong to cause the delays? They did not have the flood waters to hinder aid. The homes, businesses and hotels blown to the ground we all saw on TV were "no credible evidence"? There is no way this can be justified!
Ryan
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