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My car ran great on ATF+3 for a lot of miles before I got around to using Ford Honey.

If you drained the original fluid out of it, it would have been Mercon. ATF+3 is very similar except that it already has a higher level of friction modifier and needs no additional. Shift quality is greatly improved over Mercon (some have said better than MTL). You can get it for less than $3.00 a quart. It should serve you well until you can afford some Ford Honey, which is really probably the best answer.


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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Rishodi:
Me too.



Anyway, to contribute to this whole fiasco... I just drained and filled my tranny for the first time a few months ago, shortly after I bought it. I put in (what else?) Redline MTL because the people around here would swear by it. And now this... I want to kill you all.

And damn, I did notice a bit of difference for the better in the shifter feel, which I didn't expect. Now it's been about 4k miles or so, and I don't know what to do. I honestly can't afford to change it out right now, because I am the typical flat broke college student. My SVT already has 130k miles on it, so I am rather surprised that the synchros and the differential has survived this long.

When I get the chance, I'll probably drain out the MTL and put in RP, just to be on the safe side. I'm not really buying into this whole anti-Redline deal because there are too many other possibilities and explanations, but I don't want to take the risk, just in case. I'm planning on getting my transmission rebuilt, along with Spec clutch kit, flywheel, and the works... but not until it craps out on me, and I'd like it to last a little while yet.

When it does finally get rebuilt, I wouldn't be surprised if it was dirty as hell on the inside. I have no idea what the previous owners were running in it, and the fluid change, if I remember correctly, was the sole thing I couldn't find in all the maintanence records, so I'm not sure how often or when it was last changed before I got it. Because of that, I see no reason to blame the fluid(s) used if the tranny does come out looking ugly. If it's clean inside, though...




It will not be clean inside. I promise you that much.




Don't just say that out of the blue....It has 130K miles on it! Only a few thousand with redline. Of Course it won't be clean.


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Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
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If you are really in a hurry to get it, Ford Parts Online has it for $12.97 unless I got the part number wrong. XTM5QS right?



ya but they make you buy a whole case.



I run that part number and it says automatic transaxle fluid, is this correct? It's also showing that I can purchase it by the quart as opposed to by the case. If somebody can check it out and see if that's the right product, let me know please...


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Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Rishodi:
Me too.



Anyway, to contribute to this whole fiasco... I just drained and filled my tranny for the first time a few months ago, shortly after I bought it. I put in (what else?) Redline MTL because the people around here would swear by it. And now this... I want to kill you all.

And damn, I did notice a bit of difference for the better in the shifter feel, which I didn't expect. Now it's been about 4k miles or so, and I don't know what to do. I honestly can't afford to change it out right now, because I am the typical flat broke college student. My SVT already has 130k miles on it, so I am rather surprised that the synchros and the differential has survived this long.

When I get the chance, I'll probably drain out the MTL and put in RP, just to be on the safe side. I'm not really buying into this whole anti-Redline deal because there are too many other possibilities and explanations, but I don't want to take the risk, just in case. I'm planning on getting my transmission rebuilt, along with Spec clutch kit, flywheel, and the works... but not until it craps out on me, and I'd like it to last a little while yet.

When it does finally get rebuilt, I wouldn't be surprised if it was dirty as hell on the inside. I have no idea what the previous owners were running in it, and the fluid change, if I remember correctly, was the sole thing I couldn't find in all the maintanence records, so I'm not sure how often or when it was last changed before I got it. Because of that, I see no reason to blame the fluid(s) used if the tranny does come out looking ugly. If it's clean inside, though...




It will not be clean inside. I promise you that much.




Don't just say that out of the blue....It has 130K miles on it! Only a few thousand with redline. Of Course it won't be clean.




I can totally say that because it has 130k miles on it! No matter what that thing ain't gonna be clean!


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Have had it in for a day and have driven the thing hard. this stuff shifts like butta!

Night and day compared to the MTL - which to me is surprising...or is it?

Thumbs up to RP!


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That was the review I was waiting to hear. I'm putting that in this weekend.


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True. I guess I expected because of the 'redline' thing.


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What fluid did you run before? How long?
This is the royal purple synchromax right?

I love RP products and will be very pleased to switch if it proves superior to other fluids for shifting.


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Okay, no way I'm reading this whole thread. Someone please tell me what the outcome is, since I have MTL in my transaxle now. Is Redline no good? How about Ford Honey? And Royal Purple? I'm due for new fluid anyway, so I'll buy whichever one of those provides the best protection.


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Okay, no way I'm reading this whole thread.




wow...just wow.


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