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Some ppl are jumping to conclusions w/o reading a damn thing and are realling looking very dumb. My trans didn't break this time around...it was opened to prove a point. 
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
This is retarded. The transmission was a rebuild. It was basically new. I ran MTL in it from the rebuild on til now. About 14k miles. There IS NOTHING else that could've caused the sludge. Prior to the rebuild the case was CLEAN. After the rebuild the case was CLEAN. How are you ppl not getting this!?
Straight MTL or did you add anything to it?
Did you do a flush after the first 500-1000 miles?
2000 SVT #674
13.47 @ 102 - All Motor!
It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
This is retarded. The transmission was a rebuild. It was basically new. I ran MTL in it from the rebuild on til now. About 14k miles. There IS NOTHING else that could've caused the sludge. Prior to the rebuild the case was CLEAN. After the rebuild the case was CLEAN. How are you ppl not getting this!?
Straight MTL or did you add anything to it?
Did you do a flush after the first 500-1000 miles?
YES! No additives per Stazi's advice. I flushed it after the first 1000. Came out pretty and all...wasn't worried. Moreoever I fig'd when terry opened it...she'd be clean as a whistle. I was really shocked.
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This site looks a little interesting too as it gives specs for several gear oils including Red Line MTL and Castrol SMX-S http://members.shaw.ca/jbarge/MTF.htm
Jim Johnson
98 SVT
03 Escape Limited
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Originally posted by Terry Haines:
Two ways you can view this oil issue:-
View 1:- FMC have developed the correct spec's for the
lube to match the needs of the MTX75.They have
approved a supplier and that suppliers lube meets the
specs.
View 2:- Fords specs are incorrect for the MTX75 as is
the lube spec and a better lube supplier has proved
that their product is better(This implies that Ford
have made a major error on the honey lube specs)
I think the onus of proof is on the aftermarket
supplier to prove that their lube is better.I have yet
to see another suppliers test data that shows such
information,either by testing or chemical formulation.
Just a thought!
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Terry Haines:
Two ways you can view this oil issue:-
View 1:- FMC have developed the correct spec's for the
lube to match the needs of the MTX75.They have
approved a supplier and that suppliers lube meets the
specs.
View 2:- Fords specs are incorrect for the MTX75 as is
the lube spec and a better lube supplier has proved
that their product is better(This implies that Ford
have made a major error on the honey lube specs)
I think the onus of proof is on the aftermarket
supplier to prove that their lube is better.I have yet
to see another suppliers test data that shows such
information,either by testing or chemical formulation.
Just a thought!
Good points, Pete, and more info that I'm sure I read but either missed or forgot.
I did not nor do I now defend MTL, but I still think we have precious little to go on to condemn any fluid.
Still, if I were just looking at specs, and had never heard of CEG, I'd pick the MT-90 over the MTL based on it at least having the correct viscosity.
I checked with my local Ford dealer on the Honey, and it's $21.60/quart. I've emailed Bill J today (Friday), but I don't expect a response until next week. Where is anyone finding this stuff for $15?
I also appreciate Terry's position, but Ford and other OEMs will do things sometimes that are just a little shady. For instance, they will "spec" 5W-20 synthetic motor oil and then charge extra for it at the dealer. Truth is, any 5W20 synthetic would work in that application. Many people believe that in this case, any 75W90 Gear Oil would work just fine, but Ford creates some arcane "spec" that very few aftermarket suppliers will bother to cross-reference. Sure, it might be the "best" but that doesn't mean all other fluids will wreck your transmission.
Anyone have any real experience with the RP Synchromax? Or did I miss/forget that, too?
Function before fashion.
'96 Contour SE
"Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998
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Check with Bill Tousley, 10% over cost. The Ford dealer I went to was charging $19.71/qt. I asked the parts guy (who I have come to know over the years) for a discount and he sold it to me for $16.75/qt. Never hurts to ask. Btw I think someone posted the Bill Jenkins price, it was $17.XX.
1999 Toreador Red SVT, DOB 4/22/99, 2005 Of 2760.
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"COMIC BREAK" You might be a car guy if you post on a thread that is 24 pages about transmission fluid. 
98 csvt t-red.. sho-shop intake, b&m, fidanza, spec1 clutch, Torsen, DMD,optimized Y& TB, Brullen, rear strut bar,h&r's,17" konig traffik's.
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