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Who cares?! If the MTL blows it up...fix it and don't use MTL again. Live and learn. I really hope that I stop posting on this forum. I'm beg to hate it. 
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
If the MTL blows it up...fix it and don't use MTL again. Live and learn.
Thats enough for me... 
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Who cares?! If the MTL blows it up...fix it and don't use MTL again. Live and learn. I really hope that I stop posting on this forum. I'm beg to hate it.
WTF??? 
Pete, I don't think I've read one post from you in this thread that's made any sense. YOU had what APPEARS to be a bad encounter with MTL fluid. Quite a few people on here that have ran the SAME fluid are stating that they've had ZERO problems. See where the dilemma lies? Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MTL gunked up your trans? 
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Originally posted by Big Jim:
It's probably around $25.00. That is what they charge for engine oil. That doesn't include the extra testing that Terry requested for Sulpher.
Actually, their standard oil analysis runs $20.00 
Here's a breakdown on their website.
Carl Fisher Water Test
$30.00
Chlorine
$30.50
Dielectric Constant
$35.00
Diesel Fuel
$36.00
Emulsified oil
$55.00
Gasoline
$40.00
Grease
$30.50
H2O (6 elements)
$110.00
On-Spec Waste Oil
$149.50
Particle Count
$19.50
PCB analysis (full)
$95.00
PCB screen
$25.00
Percentage Ash
$70.00
Solvent
$30.50
Specific Gravity
$18.50
Sugar Analysis
$55.00
Sulfur
$35.00
TAN
$10.00
TBN
$10.00
Total Halogens Screen
$35.00
Viscosity @ 100�°F
$30.50
Viscosity Index
$30.50
Mark
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If this thread has left you wanting to better understand gear oil theory, I posted links to two white papers on the subject. It is in this forum under the topic "gear oil theory".
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Who cares?! If the MTL blows it up...fix it and don't use MTL again. Live and learn. I really hope that I stop posting on this forum. I'm beg to hate it.
WTF???
Pete, I don't think I've read one post from you in this thread that's made any sense. YOU had what APPEARS to be a bad encounter with MTL fluid. Quite a few people on here that have ran the SAME fluid are stating that they've had ZERO problems. See where the dilemma lies? Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MTL gunked up your trans?
Mark
Mark. How can you disprove it?! How?! There was NO other fluid run it. Not one post from you has made sense throughout this entire thread.
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Who cares?! If the MTL blows it up...fix it and don't use MTL again. Live and learn. I really hope that I stop posting on this forum. I'm beg to hate it.
WTF???
Pete, I don't think I've read one post from you in this thread that's made any sense. YOU had what APPEARS to be a bad encounter with MTL fluid. Quite a few people on here that have ran the SAME fluid are stating that they've had ZERO problems. See where the dilemma lies? Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MTL gunked up your trans?
Mark
Mark. How can you disprove it?! How?! There was NO other fluid run it. Not one post from you has made sense throughout this entire thread.
You have this backwards, IMO. You're making a wild claim and saying "Prove me wrong."
All we know for sure is that TH opened a tranny and found crap inside. He's been honest about his findings.
We also know that neighborhoods with more telephone poles have a higher crime rate. Should we ban telephone poles? I say the poles are causing crime. You need to prove me wrong.
My point is we have, at best, a weak correlation between MTL and sludge, and between sludge and MTX failure. Correlation does not, in itself, imply causality. IOW, just because two things occur together, does not mean that one thing is the cause of the other.
Function before fashion.
'96 Contour SE
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This is retarded. The transmission was a rebuild. It was basically new. I ran MTL in it from the rebuild on til now. About 14k miles. There IS NOTHING else that could've caused the sludge. Prior to the rebuild the case was CLEAN. After the rebuild the case was CLEAN. How are you ppl not getting this!?
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Originally posted by RogerB:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Who cares?! If the MTL blows it up...fix it and don't use MTL again. Live and learn. I really hope that I stop posting on this forum. I'm beg to hate it.
WTF???
Pete, I don't think I've read one post from you in this thread that's made any sense. YOU had what APPEARS to be a bad encounter with MTL fluid. Quite a few people on here that have ran the SAME fluid are stating that they've had ZERO problems. See where the dilemma lies? Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MTL gunked up your trans?
Mark
Mark. How can you disprove it?! How?! There was NO other fluid run it. Not one post from you has made sense throughout this entire thread.
Additionally, I was not experiencing any REAL problems. I brought my trans to terry for the sake of research. If it gunked it up like this after 14k miles I would've/could've had problems down the road.
You have this backwards, IMO. You're making a wild claim and saying "Prove me wrong."
All we know for sure is that TH opened a tranny and found crap inside. He's been honest about his findings.
We also know that neighborhoods with more telephone poles have a higher crime rate. Should we ban telephone poles? I say the poles are causing crime. You need to prove me wrong.
My point is we have, at best, a weak correlation between MTL and sludge, and between sludge and MTX failure. Correlation does not, in itself, imply causality. IOW, just because two things occur together, does not mean that one thing is the cause of the other.
Additionally, I was not experiencing any REAL problems. I brought my trans to terry for the sake of research. If it gunked it up like this after 14k miles I would've/could've had problems down the road.
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Don't even bother Pete. Ppl are PMing me with conclusions about why your trans "went." It's obvious no one is reading everything posted. PETE'S WAS CRACKED TO PROVE A POINT! Build up on a fresh trans that ran straight MTL. My head hurts. If Demon would have started this post everyone would be crying about the sky falling and this thread would be 1 page long. Everyone would quit running MTL and everything would be hunkey dorey.
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-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
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