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So Ray McNary was right. The older shop manuals did show that friction modifier should be added to Mercon. There is a lot of interesting stuff falling out from this thread.
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Yeah. But that has obviously been long outdated, almost ten years.
Now we have new recommended specifications....and VERY FUNNY to me that they have the same specs as Redline MTL.
Oh Todd, what do you think of that?
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Can u ask him to measure his shaft and compare it to your shaft?
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Well this is the way I see it:
Ford Honey is what Ford specifies for this transmission.
The only aftermarket products that adhere to that specification are RP Synchromax and looks like this Amsoil product as well. (specification being WSD-M2C200-C)
So for me it will be either Ford Honey or Synchromax (probably synchromax since its a lot cheaper)
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Now we have new recommended specifications....and VERY FUNNY to me that they have the same specs as Redline MTL.
Actually, MTL doesn't have the same specs at Ford Honey. Ford Honey, according to the spec sheet, is 75W90. MTL is lighter. Red Line's MT-90 is a closer match.
Here is the Red Line site. Check it out for yourself.
http://www.redlineoil.com/
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Umm yeah, I know. I was not being very precise but I meant that they were both GL-4 spec oils when I was saying they were the same. Thanks for correcting me though. Yes I am aware that MT90 is the closest oil and you may have seen my other post from about 3 weeks ago where I put in MT90. Been pretty happy with it so far too as the shifting is nice and there is absolutely no noise from the differential. I'm waiting to reserve judgement for when cooler temperatures show up as far as the shifting goes, but so far so good. Anyone on here want to unload their redline MTL really cheap? I'm in a buying mood right now, especially since the market is rather low on that stuff? C'mon, I want someone who said they were throwing it out to go ahead and do it, just throw it my way. 
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Yeah. But that has obviously been long outdated, almost ten years.
Now we have new recommended specifications....and VERY FUNNY to me that they have the same specs as Redline MTL.
Oh Todd, what do you think of that?
I reread this and it looks like it can be construed as being a smartass. I'm not trying to be. I honestly am asking your opinion or Terry if he wants to comment as to why Ford is recommending a fluid with essentially the sames specs as MTL and MT90 (with MT90 being the closest as Big Jim wrote).
Though this information is good it doesn't discredit any observations people have had. It may make us look for alternative reasons though.
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If they are the same why do they smell SO different then? Just a minor observation.
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Are you comparing new fluid to used or side by side new in the bottle?
I also wouldn't expect them to smell the same new since the formulations are different though. Like tires, not all treads and compounds are the same though they all meet the standards to be certified.
All I can say for certain is that MTL nor MT90 smelled strongly like an axle gear oil. They did not smell like an ATF though either.
The Royal purple maxgear did smell more like a gear oil than the MT series fluids did too. At this point I wouldn't recommend it. Their regular series of fluids will be fine.
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Ford honey smelled downright nice. MTL didn't smell like ATF...but didn't smell like gear oil. MTL was a closer smell match to a 90w gear oil that I had nearby. Just an observation.
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