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warmonger, thank you for your efforts. demon also. the last page or so has cleared up a few questions i have had throughout this thread. the responses from torsen and redline are especially helpful. now just out of curiousity i want to see the lab results, but what i have learned is:
-redline=ok
-ford honey=ok
-synchromesh=ok
-RR synchro(whatever)=ok
-fm=no
and most importantly i now have the specs to which i may compare any future fluid.
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fastcougar is right, lol, the 1999 manual I loaded must've been a chached copy of one of the others or something. I just checked now and it does say 2% FM. But the fact that later manuals say simply ATF, then finally Ford Honey makes me think I still dont want to use FM.
Also received this from Terry:
Originally posted by TerryHaines(email):
...lube chart(attached) does NOT designate honey as a
GL 4 lube.The only current GL lube is part #
F32Z-19C547-MA, which is a 75W90 Gl-4,it is not used
inthe MTX75...take a look at the cart!
The attachment didnt' come through but once I get the chart I can post it here for everyone's review
So:
Ford Honey is NOT a GL-4 gear oil maybe?
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Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Also received this from Terry:
Originally posted by TerryHaines(email):
...lube chart(attached) does NOT designate honey as a
GL 4 lube.The only current GL lube is part #
F32Z-19C547-MA, which is a 75W90 Gl-4,it is not used
inthe MTX75...take a look at the cart!
The attachment didnt' come through but once I get the chart I can post it here for everyone's review
So:
Ford Honey is NOT a GL-4 gear oil maybe?
It looks like there may be no current objective evidence that Ford Honey is GL4. When I found the product sheet back in 2003 I posted it here. Somehow that product sheet did not remain in the CEG archives, but many saw it and commented about it at the time. Last night and this morning I have spent considerable time searching Ford and Motorcraft sites looking for any detail there might be about XT-M5-QS and WSD-M2C200-C and cannot find that original product sheet, or for that matter anything but the briefest of descriptions of the product.
I know it was there, and others saw the post, but I cannot prove it today.
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Look what Terry pointed out to me, this is very intersting!
http://www.amsoil.com/scripts/runisa.dll?amsoiloaf.:rightpanel:1681767005:conto,fd,g,124383
EDIT: cut and past that link I guess
See what Amsoil says is a lube for the MTX? 
Also, here is a current ford lube chart lube chart
A note regarding this chart, also brought up by Terry, is that there are different products: Ford Honey, and a GL-4 gear lube is also listed. Why would ford make two different products of the Ford Honey IS the same as GL-4 gear lube? Just something else to think about....
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Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Look what Terry pointed out to me, this is very intersting!
http://www.amsoil.com/scripts/runisa.dll?amsoiloaf.:rightpanel:1681767005:conto,fd,g,124383
EDIT: cut and past that link I guess
See what Amsoil says is a lube for the MTX?
Also, here is a current ford lube chart lube chart
A note regarding this chart, also brought up by Terry, is that there are different products: Ford Honey, and a GL-4 gear lube is also listed. Why would ford make two different products of the Ford Honey IS the same as GL-4 gear lube? Just something else to think about....
I picked up a copy of the lube chart and a TSB reference chart yesterday at a local dealership. The IB5 transmission, next to the MTX-75 is the FSVT, and is the only other that uses honey.
On the TSB chart there are two TSB's for the honey. 00-1-9, which was already posted, and 01-15-7. I havent looked up the second number.
There is also a TSB for FEHP friction modifier, the XL-7 the number is 03-19-8.
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The Amsoil link doesn't work. Something about the search being timed out.
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So according to this chart... Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
lube chart
..... Synchromax is recommended from RP. 
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