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Terry specifically recommends either Ford Honey (you'll have to ask him about the FM, I don't remember him mentioning using it in conjunction) or Mobil 1 synth ATF WITH XL-7 FM. I'm running the latter.
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I have a feeling for whatever car I own I am always end up going with what the manufacturer recommends. Reason being...look at DSMs. There are SOOO many diff types of lube out there. DSM guys argue about Mobil 1 syn being the best and the worst. There is no clear cut answer. I've tried to research other platforms and have just come up with more confusion than I had before this. 
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Originally posted by akrump47:
This thread has gone from most worthwhile to most inconclusive evar! All I would like to know is what fluid to run that will prevent my 3rd gear syncros from destroying themselves a 3RD time in the future! 
P.S. - warmonger, I'll PM you if I still decide to get rid of my MTL.
Everything has been presented here. You have a brain right? Decide for yourself. You're a big boy.
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http://www.fordcontour.org/index.php?showtopic=1497&hl=This is an interesting flashback...I remember it now, Terry was a little uncertain about Redline MTL but had communicated with them. He also said in a separate thread: Quote:
I like Mobil 1 with FM or Ford honey with FM
And also that groups never can come to a consensus. 
"Think of it, if you like, as a librarian with a G-string under the tweed." Clarkson on the Mondeo.
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Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
And also that groups never can come to a consensus.
I think 98% of us know what the consensus is. 
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Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Terry specifically recommends either Ford Honey (you'll have to ask him about the FM, I don't remember him mentioning using it in conjunction) or Mobil 1 synth ATF WITH XL-7 FM. I'm running the latter.
That may change... just be careful.
Originally posted by TerryHaines(email):
..the FM deal goes waYYYYYYYYYY back.I'd stick with
straight up honey until I get lab results....but thats
just me
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There has been mention of syncromesh, either valvoline or Royal purple, but for some reason no positive or negative feedback on this fluid. Demon ,who i respect a ton, is running it. Rawburt is saying he is going with the RP version of it. Someone mentioned the DSM debate on trans fluid, well my friend who just had a race trans built by sheppard racing was told to go with Pennzoil Syncromesh and this is what he is running.(only 600mi since rebuild so not a lot of input from him) I was just wondering if this is a good idea or not. I haven't heard any good or bad input about it. I have MTL now, and honestly i don't plan on doing anything about it in the near future. I just know that often times OEM suggestions meet needs, but rarely surpass them. I have a feeling ford honey isn't the best fluid out there, and i dont feel like buying another trans, or paying for a TH rebuild. So any thoughts or suggestions on this fluid??
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Originally posted by Stylin55_oh:
I have MTL now, and honestly i don't plan on doing anything about it in the near future.
So then why are you asking if you don't plan on changing it. Just keep running MTL. No one is forcing you to do anything. I thought you said you didn't want to pay Terry for a rebuild. 
The SHO guys really like GM synchromesh. It's pretty pricey though. About as much as Honey from what I recall. Also funny Demon isn't running MTL any longer. I do recall seeing his post now abouy Penn. synchromesh. Sounds pretty scientific. Run it until it shows an issue and then go with something else.
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-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
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Originally posted by Stylin55_oh:
There has been mention of syncromesh, either valvoline or Royal purple, but for some reason no positive or negative feedback on this fluid. Demon ,who i respect a ton, is running it. Rawburt is saying he is going with the RP version of it. Someone mentioned the DSM debate on trans fluid, well my friend who just had a race trans built by sheppard racing was told to go with Pennzoil Syncromesh and this is what he is running.(only 600mi since rebuild so not a lot of input from him) I was just wondering if this is a good idea or not. I haven't heard any good or bad input about it. I have MTL now, and honestly i don't plan on doing anything about it in the near future. I just know that often times OEM suggestions meet needs, but rarely surpass them. I have a feeling ford honey isn't the best fluid out there, and i dont feel like buying another trans, or paying for a TH rebuild. So any thoughts or suggestions on this fluid??
Look at the pics of MTL and decide. That is my trans on the chopping block. I am never gonna touch that stuff again.
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Originally posted by akrump47:
This thread has gone from most worthwhile to most inconclusive evar! All I would like to know is what fluid to run that will prevent my 3rd gear syncros from destroying themselves a 3RD time in the future!
P.S. - warmonger, I'll PM you if I still decide to get rid of my MTL.
I was noticing in the past few weeks that the ocassionaly grinding into 3rd and the slightly sloppy 3rd gear shift has completely disappeard gradually since putting in Ford Honey with XL3.
This is hardly scientific, but an observation of my car only. I have about 40,000 miles on the fluid now, and it was still acting up a litte at 30,000 miles. I have some ATF+4 that I intended to use when this fluid hits 60,000 miles, but now I'm thinking I'll probably return to Ford Honey, but next time I'll use XL7 (it wasn't available when I last changed fluid).
The car has 210,000 miles with the original clutch and the trans has never been out of the car.
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