Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I did flush it after the first 500 miles. And Terry told me that quaife didn't rec this type of fluid. I see this getting ugly and being an ego based argument about who has the bigger d!ck.

I watched Terry make a couple of swipes on the other two cases and I wasn't terribly concerned about it.


I was just typing to my Volvo buddy and he uses MTL religously in his cars:

DanGTO: i can probably join, and throw some [censored]
DanGTO: i know i have some, i have 2 other trannies apart, i wonder if i cleaned the shifter plates off
DanGTO: but the cause of trans failure was a tweaked housing due to the torque.
DanGTO: But, i could not believe what i saw
DanGTO: funny thing is
DanGTO: the volvo drain on the trans
DanGTO: is magnetic
DanGTO: and i found only a ton of sludge built on it
DanGTO: so it is true, that the mtl shifts metal with it.
DanGTO: hell, the other trans in it has redline now
DanGTO: my overdrive unit, which uses the fluid and a solenoid to work [electronic 5th] was full of crap on the filter as well.
DanGTO: moore black crap.
DanGTO: yet, every volvo shop swears by it.

War...as for the discoloration it was THERE, YOU HAVE MY WORD. As much rainbow as the city of Ferndale.

War...when u say properly flush...you mean just an empty and a refill after break-in or is there a step I missed?



Look, fair enough on the flush and on the opinion. A flush is a flush. The particles should have been mostly removed in the first flush and any left over that weren't picked up by the magnet should have been relatively harmless. I'm not interested in the bigger dick thing (also don't really care for the reference). I just don't like it when things are so one sided and there are so many uncontrolled variables. This isn't a slam on any person but on the methods used. It won't hurt me if Redline does turn out to be terrible but my god man, how come there haven't been reports on the way some of these transmission using ATF have looked? There is no rigorous start to finish tests and there have been far more people using it. Why did my transmission look so much better than that one after 1.5 years of use? There are too many variables here that don't add up. How much wear was on the trans to begin with. How well was the diff set. How much wear occurs on a quaife/torsen. Flushing the fluid won't clean the magnet, that stuff is magnetic and it will stay there from the break in procedure.
How about your fluid when it was pulled out. I doubt the transmission was transported with fluid it in. Can it be spread out in a clear class jar so we can see how dirty/particle filled it is?
I just think that we should all be sure before we trash a product and cause literally hundreds of users to stop using it. Sure there are other fluids out there but still...I'm more a scientist at heart and I hate bad science.

Hell, if it is a bad product then I don't want to use it either...lets just be sure. No offense to you or Todd or Terry on that point.

Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760 356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas! See My Mods '05 Volvo S40 Turbo 5 AWD with 6spd, Passion Red '06 Mazda5 Touring, 5spd,MTX, Black