Originally posted by unisys12:


Back on topic...

I think before we start jumping to conclusions here, we need to find out some facts about the trannys in question. Like...

1) What fluid did they have in the tranny before?

2) How long had the old fluid been in the tranny before the change-over to MTL?

3) How long had the MTL been in the tranny, before the failure?

4) Did the person change the fluid on a regular basis and/or what intervals had the fluid been changed?

5) When the dif's broke, were there any differences in the breaks and in what ways were they different?

Those are just a few of the questions that I would ask myself if this had happened to me. Granted, Terry has probably answered these questions in his forum, but I am just wondering for myself. Because before we go off and denote a product line as a bad thing for our trannys, which almost everyone here has had good results with until now, we should have some proof first.

This is in no way an attempt to dis any of Terrys opinions, but I feel that before a post is made saying that a product has caused a failure, then there needs to be some proof to back up the claims.



1. As far as I know it had stock fluid, whatever that may be. I am unsure.

2. I have no records of previous changing. Thats why I did it.

3. The MTL was in for probably 4 to 5 months.

4. That was the first time I (myself) changed it. Like I said I dont know about anything that happened before.

5. From what I heard, they are breaking the same way. The MTL is gunking up into a paste mixed around with metallic flakes and blocking oil from the diff.

Terry has a some very useful info on FCO. Unless you guys want to start opening up your pocket books, I'd suggest at least checking it out before you completely look past the idea.

Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
How about what kind of driving has this tranny seen? Not just with you but with the previous owners? Have you ever dragged, launched hard, etc.?

That diff is weak enough that mild abuse will break it. If mine goes, I sure wont be blaming the MTL. I dont abuse it often at all, but any can be too much for that sucker!

Heck, there is a thread in this forum right now about a brand new stock diff failing!!! I mean come on?! Fluid? How about its just a piece?



My diff has seen some abuse by me. But nothing to bad, I mean just some spirited driving every now and then. Yes it had 103K on it and it was probably time to go... But I'm not thinking that the MTL helped too much... I mean a couple months after I put it in... Come'on... others experiencing the same. I am just trying to look out for you guys. LOOK INTO IT!