Originally posted by JEDsContour:
There are so many problems, misstatements and falsehoods here that I'm not even going to try.


Please do try. I'm interested.

Originally posted by JEDsContour:
As a rule science and scientists are indifferent to the various religious beliefs. Science is not about faith. Everything is open to question and examination â??? though at some point it is silly and counterproductive to do so. In the world of science, evolution is both a fact and a theory.


Please abandon the assumption that when I talk about faith I'm referring to anything religious. That will help you understand my points a little easier.

Originally posted by JEDsContour:
Let me put it this way, you are never going to see a serious biologist publish a paper titled something like â??New proof for evolution discovered!â? It would be ridiculously redundant. The fact of evolution has been firmly established for well over a century.


The fact that the Earth is the center of the universe was also established well over a century ago. So what's your point? If you think that once something is scientifically 'proven' that the book is closed on it, then I suggest a more careful review of scientific history for you.

Originally posted by JEDsContour:
Scientists do care when religious groups try to define faith-based beliefs as â??scienceâ? (redefining science) and then aggressively use the political process to try and distort childrenâ??s understanding of it.


Why do they care what religious groups have to say if their views and science are so well-proven and true? I'd think that if they were so right then they wouldn't care what some crackpot religious zealots have to say.