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Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by Woodencross:
Because SCIENCE (dead sea scrolls, etc) have shown that the translation that we have today is ACCURATE when compared to the original text.
And you know this how? You witnessed it yourself in a previous life? No, It's because somebody TOLD you to believe it! It's called "blind faith" for that reason. There is nothing there you can put your finger on. Except the bible, which I have one too, and can put MY finger on an issue of Playboy just as easily! I saw a bumper sticker today that sumed up blind faith it read;
The big bang theory, God spoke and BANG! it happened! Sounds a little "blind" to me. Look, It's not that I don't believe in a superior being, it's that a lot of us think (me included) there's more to it than that. Science PROVES there's more to it than that. All one has to do is look at birds, frogs/tadpoles, and cavemen to know there is more to it than just creationism.
To believe otherwise is indeed blind faith.
As I've already said, if it were blind faith, I would have left my beliefs in the dust already, because blind faith = shutting off brain!!
And there's more to it than simply a designer? Doesn't creationism and the fact that there was a designer show that there is more to it than simply creationism? Obviously. Science, or our world, shows that God created the world in a very orderly way. It wasn't chaos, as evolution would have you think, that this world came out of. For example, look at how close our Earth is to the sun!! If it were even the smallest increment closer, we would FRY! And if it were even the smallest increment further away, we would FREEZE! Obviously, the creator knew what he was doing SCIENTIFICALLY when he DESIGNED AND CREATED THE WORLD!!
Blind faith would be like me looking at my Computer here on my desk and saying that it came out of GOO! I would say, there's no explanation for how it got here, but it's here! And you would look at me like I was crazy and say,"Dude, somebody designed EVERY little part of that computer, and somebody put that computer together by hand, and somebody went to the trouble of putting it in a shipping box, putting it on a truck, and delivering it here, and in then end, somebody even had to hook it up!"
I would never say that, because I don't believe that anything in this world just happened to get here!! EVOLUTION NEVER TOOK PLACE!! EVOLUTION NEVER COULD CREATE THE WORLD WE HAVE!! Somebody or something designed the world, and something or somebody took the time to put it together to sustain life. That doesn't discount the scientific research!!
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Originally posted by Woodencross:
All right, if you prefer a little more meat with your potatoes then start doing some research on this topic. Go seek out the scientific findings on the Dead Sea Scrolls, and on other proof of the validity of the scripture. There has never been a time in our existence that God has asked us to believe in Him on blind faith. He says to put it to the test, find out the truth. And SCIENCE is proving the scriptures on a daily basis. I don't need BLIND FAITH to believe in my God. I look around at this world and see all I need to see to believe that something created it. I start doing some minor research and quickly find that scripture is true, and valid.
I have done plenty.
Then I suggest you do a little more!!
You will find in the history books and science books now, that very well educated people are discussing the scientific findings and how they compare to the Biblical texts. Science has not once proven the Bible wrong, and in fact, continues to confirm the text as written.
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Originally posted by Woodencross:
As for your pastor, man......I don't know what to say besides the fact that even pastors are human and are imperfect. I'm sorry you were raised with that, but if you would go read the Bible, I challenge you to find a blind faith passage in there.
Since neither you or I where there when it was writen to verify the authenticity of the document, it IS blind faith, nothing more nothing less. Sorry, you cannot prove otherwise and all your ranting and raving will not change that.
If you make this...
**Since neither you or I where there when it was writen to verify the authenticity of the document, it IS blind faith, nothing more nothing less. Sorry, you cannot prove otherwise and all your ranting and raving will not change that.**
...the basis for verifying the authenticity of everything, then in all honesty, the only reality there is, is the reality that I have lived. In fact, WWII never happened, America never came into existence, and the world didn't exist prior to my birth! This is how silly this argument is. It simply does not make any sense to believe that the only "real" things out there are those that I can see and touch. IN fact, under this basis for verifying authenticity, when I leave work, the building no longer stands there. It isn't BLIND FAITH that causes me to GO BACK TO THE BUILDING EVERY DAY! No, it is experience, and knowledge of the reality of things past, present, and future that allows me to go back to the building everyday!!
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