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No. I'm a muslim. God can't have children. God has no children. God can't be given any human qualities - it's the highest form of sacrilege. If he does, he's not "God"... He's "a god". I always liked Zeus. He seemed pretty cool.
My "cavalier" attitude has nothing to do with my contempt for religion. I have contempt for blind faith, lack of education and open mindedness, and the inability to use some form of logic.
Originally posted by t-red2000se:
God ended his creative endeavor when he was pleased with it. He's the creator, he calls the shots of when he wanted to finish. Your cavalier lack of respect to God ("chilling with his homies", "kick back and have a beer.") shows how deep your contempt of religion is. Your view is skewed, so the argument is moot. Good day.
BTW, a beer does sound pretty good, doesn't it? 
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Originally posted by SalKhan:
No. I'm a muslim. God can't have children. God has no children. God can't be given any human qualities - it's the highest form of sacrilege. If he does, he's not "God"... He's "a god". I always liked Zeus. He seemed pretty cool.
You are talking about Allah, not God. He may be your god but he is not THE God. They are not the same. God has a son, his name is Jesus. Without Him I would be going to Hell. God has human qualities but is without sin and perfect in every way. We were created in His image.
Originally posted by SalKhan:
Maybe you should realize that parts of the bible just might... Not... be... accurate.
Proof? The Bible is 100% accurate. It is the inspired Word of God.
Originally posted by SalKhan:
If God was all powerful, he wouldn't have bothered with our understanding of "7 days" and then need to "rest". God doesn't rest. Humans rest. He would've snapped his proverbial fingers and it would be done.
So are you saying He isn't all powerful or that He didn't rest? Because the Bible says both.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
I swear, I've never known any group to have a bigger persecution complex than the hardcore Christians. And the ironic thing is they're the group with the least reason to have that complex.
Viss, I thought you said you were a Christian? The Bible says we should all be hardcore Christians (Rev 3:16).
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Originally posted by Corbett:
[Proof? The Bible is 100% accurate.
 This is funny. How do you know? I mean how do you REALLY know?! Because somebody told you? If I told you Pamela Anderson created the earth and all the good things within would you believe it? Would somebody write about it 500 years from now and get the story one-hundred percent correct? NO WAY!  You believe what you believe based on "blind faith". I prefer a little more meat with my potatoes. I have a friend who has a doctorate (I believe) in theology and was a southern baptist minister for thirty or so years and a lot of what he says usually ends with "and this is the part where blind faith comes into play". This man has been at this for fifty years! It works for you but spare us the routine.
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Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by Corbett:
[Proof? The Bible is 100% accurate.
This is funny. How do you know? I mean how do you REALLY know?! Because somebody told you?
Because SCIENCE (dead sea scrolls, etc) have shown that the translation that we have today is ACCURATE when compared to the original text.
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If I told you Pamela Anderson created the earth and all the good things within would you believe it? Would somebody write about it 500 years from now and get the story one-hundred percent correct? NO WAY! You believe what you believe based on "blind faith". I prefer a little more meat with my potatoes. I have a friend who has a doctorate (I believe) in theology and was a southern baptist minister for thirty or so years and a lot of what he says usually ends with "and this is the part where blind faith comes into play". This man has been at this for fifty years! It works for you but spare us the routine.
All right, if you prefer a little more meat with your potatoes then start doing some research on this topic. Go seek out the scientific findings on the Dead Sea Scrolls, and on other proof of the validity of the scripture. There has never been a time in our existence that God has asked us to believe in Him on blind faith. He says to put it to the test, find out the truth. And SCIENCE is proving the scriptures on a daily basis. I don't need BLIND FAITH to believe in my God. I look around at this world and see all I need to see to believe that something created it. I start doing some minor research and quickly find that scripture is true, and valid.
As for your pastor, man......I don't know what to say besides the fact that even pastors are human and are imperfect. I'm sorry you were raised with that, but if you would go read the Bible, I challenge you to find a blind faith passage in there.
And on a personal note, I would have left my faith by now were I to believe in God on blind faith. I'm not an idiot and I will not shut my brain off to believe in God. My faith in God is based on Scripture, life experience, and so much more. I think you would benefit by doing a bit more research.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
They are not the same. God has a son, his name is Jesus.
I rest my case.
All I'm gonna say is when I have a problem, I'd go straight to the father, why deal with the son?
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Originally posted by Corbett:
You are talking about Allah, not God. He may be your god but he is not THE God. They are not the same.
Then what about Allah and God both being defined be each popular branch of Islam and Christianity as "The God of Abraham"?
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Originally posted by JaTo:
Originally posted by Corbett:
You are talking about Allah, not God. He may be your god but he is not THE God. They are not the same.
Then what about Allah and God both being defined be each popular branch of Islam and Christianity as "The God of Abraham"?
Abraham's sons are where the split is. Allah is the god of Ishmael. God is the God of Isaac. Thus begins the multi-millennial fued.
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Originally posted by SalKhan:
No. I'm a muslim.
How do you reconcile the fact that your holy book tells you to kill me?
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