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Originally posted by Kremithefrog: The Bible was written by man. Man during the time it was written had no understanding of even basic scientific theories, so of course anything about evolution would be beyond them. Just because it's not in the Bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I believe God created us but may very well have used an evolutionary process to do so.
During the time first book of the Bible (Genesis, for those keeping score at home) was written, the Egyptian society was actually pretty well versed in architecture, geometry, agriculture (irrigation was a huge step in civilization, mind you), medicine, metallurgy, astronomy, etc. Granted, none of this is quantum physics, but if that were the benchmark, Darwin wouldn't have a leg to stand on, either.
The Bible was written by men who had the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
As for Theistic Evolution, that is not a biblical principal, since:
A. God created all things in their own kind.
B. God created, and saw it was good, then ended the creative process.
What most fail to realize is that the Bible is not a complete history, science, geneaology, etc. It is an overview that gives you ample information to get the gist, and let you make your own decisions. I pray that God opens some of your hearts to His word.
Just my .02, though I may have overpaid.
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Originally posted by Viss1: Evolution = science Creationism = philosophy/theology
Teach one in science class, teach the other in philospohy class. Better yet, teach it in church.
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I am going to have to disagree. I personally believe that both should taught in the classroom because both are theories. It is not fair to only hear one side of the argument.
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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
I'm just guessing here, but you are probably catholic. So I guess the rest of the religions are wrong because you have a book (written by man) that says so. And not only is that book written by man, its translated by man, from another book written by a man. And its passed through a few different languages, some of which that are not directly translatable. Ever play the game "telephone" in school. How something starts is never the way it ends up.
I suggest you go study what the dead sea scrolls are and how they relate to the idiotic comment you just made.
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Originally posted by Viss1: Evolution = science Creationism = philosophy/theology
Teach one in science class, teach the other in philospohy class. Better yet, teach it in church.
I disagree. I think both should be taught with equal emphasis. Then let the student choose which they believe.
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Originally posted by Antonio Wright: I am going to have to disagree. I personally believe that both should taught in the classroom because both are theories. It is not fair to only hear one side of the argument.
Awesome Ant! I totally agree about equal time in public schools.
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at the time the bible was written it was written the best way it could have been with the understanding the people had at present time. now that our understanding of our place in the universe has grown it should be rewritten. at least have a better interpretation....but to think that the bible is the be all end all of our history is silly..even my pastor says so..i do not believe the earth was created in 7 days...however i can believe that the earth was created in what God would consider is 7 days....ie: could be millions of earth years....so i believe it isnt far from the truth that evolutionism and creationism is one and the same...just different interpretation....
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If God was all powerful, he wouldn't have bothered with our understanding of "7 days" and then need to "rest". God doesn't rest. Humans rest. He would've snapped his proverbial fingers and it would be done.
Did he set things in motion a trillion years ago? I say yes and that's how I join religion and science.
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Originally posted by Corbett: Originally posted by Viss1: Evolution = science Creationism = philosophy/theology
Teach one in science class, teach the other in philospohy class. Better yet, teach it in church.
I disagree. I think both should be taught with equal emphasis. Then let the student choose which they believe.
Which Biblical Creation story should be taught? If you read Genesis carefully, you'll notice that there are two different Creation stories. The first, (Gen 1:1-2:4) shows God creating the universe in six days. Day 1- creation of light, Day 2- creation of heavens and water, Day 3- creation of land and vegetation, Day 4- creation of bodies of light, Day 5- creation of creatures of heaven and waters, and finally Day 6- creation of life on land and its vegetable food, and finally creation of mankind (both man and woman in his image).
From Gen 2:4-25, we see a totally different Creation story. To sum, it begins with the creation of man (just males, females come later), then follows with the creation of plantlife, then "every animal of the field and every bird of the air". Man found none of these animals fit as a partner, so God put the man to sleep, removed one of his ribs and then made a woman out of it.
I feel that the ancient Israelites, after witnessing the power of God through their exodus out of Egypt, reasoned that God must have been around since the beginning of time. So they utilized stories already known at the time (such as the Babylonian account of creationism) and put their own "spin" on it.
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Originally posted by SalKhan: If God was all powerful, he wouldn't have bothered with our understanding of "7 days" and then need to "rest". God doesn't rest. Humans rest. He would've snapped his proverbial fingers and it would be done.
Did he set things in motion a trillion years ago? I say yes and that's how I join religion and science.
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Which god are we even talking about? There are so many religions, holy books, and gods its hard to take religion seriously.
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