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Originally posted by SVTatGT:
Originally posted by SILFROSvT98:
I think it's horrible what happened. I feel for everyone there. It must be hell. Murder, rape, anarchy, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We don't have the resourses to help becuase they're being wasted on an interest that isn't even of this country. The U.S. Govn't donated only 10 million dollars to help. Our own country. How much was spent in Iraq? Who did that money help?
I have an idea
Maybe we should use money to absorb the water in NO, its brilliant. Just dump billions of $1 bills in there and the water will go away.
Oh, and link, you were only 1,000 times short in your estimate of federal money going towards recovery.
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Originally posted by SILFROSvT98:
I think it's horrible what happened. I feel for everyone there. It must be hell. Murder, rape, anarchy, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We don't have the resourses to help becuase they're being wasted on an interest that isn't even of this country. The U.S. Govn't donated only 10 million dollars to help. Our own country. How much was spent in Iraq? Who did that money help?
Wow, you're a treat. Try $10 BILLION. And while you're at it, try imagining that the problem isn't lack of resources, it's the logistics of getting all those resources into place.
http://iraqnow.blogspot.com/2005/09/you-cant-push-rope.html
It takes about six hours for a bus to get from New Orleans to, say, Houston. Then you have to off-load people, then there's probably a cleanup period, if you've heard the stories about the dismal conditions that they're living in. Then if the bus crews are smart, they on-load supplies to take back to the NO Convention Center or Superdome, so there's probably a minimum of two to four hours to turn the buses from drop-off to ready-to-return. Then six hours back to New Orleans, making for about eighteen hours to cycle one load of people out of New Orleans.
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Still barely casts a shadow on money spent in Iraq. I'd much rather have my tax dollars soak up water than "liberate" a country we have only one interest in.
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SILFROSvT98, we know you are a little slow, so here is a little mathmatics lesson for you.
1k = one thousand dollars
1m = one million dollars
1b = one billion dollars
I hope this clears up your confusion and helps you graduate from third grade
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Originally posted by SILFROSvT98:
I think it's horrible what happened. I feel for everyone there. It must be hell. Murder, rape, anarchy, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We don't have the resourses to help becuase they're being wasted on an interest that isn't even of this country. The U.S. Govn't donated only 10 million dollars to help. Our own country. How much was spent in Iraq? Who did that money help?
Read much, congress authorized 10 BILLION
Money is authorized by congress, not the president. The president can ask, but cannot force congress to spend a dime.
The Army cannot just go into a state. The state has to REQUEST federal assistance.
Those asking about proactive measures, please show me where any of the states proactively asked the federal government to position troops, supplies or anything else in their state?
If you can demonstrate that they asked for the kind of assistance in advance, I'll take up the fight that the Federal government screwed up.
If the states didn't ask ahead of time for the aid many are crying here about the federal government being slow to provide, then stop whining about the federal government being screwed up.
I'm not a big fan of large central government, these issues should be state issues.
Each state should be resonsible for it's own disaster planning and preparation, not the federal government.
The federal government should cover the states if legitimate well concieved plans fail.
But no blame should fall on the federal government if states didn't adequately prepare in advance for this.
What was LA plan for a CAT 4 or CAT 5 hurricane?
How about AL or MS?
We will all help, but it's not the job of the federal government to do the work of the states.
Finally, I don't wish this to sound like I don't want the federal government helping, because I see it as the only solution. I simply don't want to see the blame shifted from those on the ground who are directly responsible for the safety of their citizens, the state and local governments.
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Ignorance it seems is an epidemic.
SILFROSvT98 you need to STFU - you're clueless beyond belief.
Did you sign up to the correspondance school of the "College of HITMANinMI"?
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Originally posted by SILFROSvT98:
Hurricanes are an act of God. And I don't think God recognizes political parties by the way. The reason a lot of people voted for Bush is because he's against Gay Marrige. How much money could we have given LA if it hadn't been wasted in Iraq? How many National guardsmen would be aiding the people in LA if they weren't in Iraq?
It's simple:
1) There will NOT be a lack of resources for the response; there HAS been a HUGE lack of intelligent thought in expecting an instantaneous response to one of the biggest natural disasters that has EVER hit the US.
2) It takes TIME to coordinate rescue and supply efforts of this magnatude. Another 10-20K troops sitting around on their asses until a PLAN can be put into effect doesn't do New Orleans a bit of good, does it?
Face it; if the "Big One" hit the San Andreas fault today, Mother Nature wouldn't be held accountable or the idiots that continue to build on one of the most active seismic zones on the planet, it would be the Federal govt. and whoever is in office at the time because it's easier to be an idiot and spout theories and rehash what the press shoots out instead of thinking objectively.
Now I'm just waiting for the left-wing crackpots to start blaming Bush for the cuts in FEMA and Army Core of Engineers budgets for next year because of the Iraq War, DESPITE the fact that Congress controls the budget and none of the planned cuts had TAKEN EFFECT yet...
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Originally posted by SILFROSvT98:
Still barely casts a shadow on money spent in Iraq. I'd much rather have my tax dollars soak up water than "liberate" a country we have only one interest in.
What interest is that?
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Originally posted by todras:
Oh my.  I think the cheese just slid off his cracker.
One has to have a cracker to begin with before their cheese can slide off...
I think someone's missing the whole package.
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