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Originally posted by Stazi:
I don't like their illigal means of coming here either - but the fact is. These poor effers are DYING to work, most of the time, and you see them doing all the crap jobs that some US-born asshats won't do, and choose to sit on their ass and collect the pension.
What needs to be done is allow these guys to come here, pick fruit, was bathrooms, mow our lawns, but if they come here and get into gang activity and crap like that DEPORT THEM WITHOUT QUESTION. Just push them out of a Chinook over Juarez and call it a day!
They're called work Visas & yes, we have them. Something is wrong, I just don't get it. The illegals consume a considerable amount of resources in healthcare, law enforcement, & other benefits. How much revenue are they generating to justify allowing them in?
There should be a change in the laws for residency claims too. If you're born here, you're in. I think if you're born here, but your parents are illegals, you're ALL OUT. I don't mind spending the tax dollars to help those who are here legally. Those that are cheating the system are the big problem.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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There is such a thing as a work Visa. They can come in & perform the labor legally, so all this talk of only illegals can provide the cheap labor is BS.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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not all illegals are mexican
i thought i heard something about a program that if a non-resident can find a job then they could get a visa and come to the country? am i off base?
if someone has the balls to sneak in here risking getting caught and never being allowed back, then they decide to work a crappy job that no one here will do and get paid nothing to do it, then i say let them stay.
if they sneak in and start to cause a ruckus, then they gotta go.
i have no problem with people that want to better themselves and act right, but working the system or getting into/starting gangs isn't what this place is about.
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Illegal immigrants make a second society within our own, because they are here illegal. Then they don't learn to speak or read english to be able to function within America like most other immigrants do.
I support making english the national language, and by doing so no one will loose their heritage like many Latino's claim. Look to all the other immigrants from everywhere else as an example, they have retained their heritage and are able to function within America. If they choose to just flat out Americanize, they have that choice too.
Man, we need major immigration law reform AND a much more secure border!
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Originally posted by Stazi:
No one is forcing them to do manual labor - it's what they choose, knowing they cannot take other more qualified jobs.
Fact is, half the people on the dole right now, could do the same, but are too effen lazy to get off there ass and do it!
So revoke their welfare checks and make them do the work!
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Originally posted by Swazo:
Man, we need major immigration law reform AND a much more secure border!
Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
So revoke their welfare checks and make them do the work!
Why don't we have politicians like you guys?
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NumbersUSA something I came across..
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Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
Originally posted by Stazi:
No one is forcing them to do manual labor - it's what they choose, knowing they cannot take other more qualified jobs.
Fact is, half the people on the dole right now, could do the same, but are too effen lazy to get off there ass and do it!
So revoke their welfare checks and make them do the work!
cuz slanging dope is easier  and payz 10000x more.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by Swazo:
Illegal immigrants make a second society within our own, because they are here illegal. Then they don't learn to speak or read english to be able to function within America like most other immigrants do.
I support making english the national language, and by doing so no one will loose their heritage like many Latino's claim. Look to all the other immigrants from everywhere else as an example, they have retained their heritage and are able to function within America. If they choose to just flat out Americanize, they have that choice too.
there are plenty of legal immigrants who do not desire nor need to learn English as well. there are Korean, Russian, Armenian, Philipino, Chinese etc communities where immigrants do not need to learn the language either.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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there in lies the problem. Typically the 'illegals' neighbor hoods are surrounded by crime and gangs. Coincidence? I think not. There should be that type of mentallity that's why it is such a growing problem and no end is in the near term future unless we get med-evil on the problem ASAP. PS - No one said illegals = Mexicans. However, the MAJORITY off illegal immigrants are from Latin America...... Originally posted by cliffjohnson:
not all illegals are mexican
i thought i heard something about a program that if a non-resident can find a job then they could get a visa and come to the country? am i off base?
if someone has the balls to sneak in here risking getting caught and never being allowed back, then they decide to work a crappy job that no one here will do and get paid nothing to do it, then i say let them stay.
if they sneak in and start to cause a ruckus, then they gotta go.
i have no problem with people that want to better themselves and act right, but working the system or getting into/starting gangs isn't what this place is about.
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