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Originally posted by svt4stv: Originally posted by Swazo: Illegal immigrants make a second society within our own, because they are here illegal. Then they don't learn to speak or read english to be able to function within America like most other immigrants do.
I support making english the national language, and by doing so no one will loose their heritage like many Latino's claim. Look to all the other immigrants from everywhere else as an example, they have retained their heritage and are able to function within America. If they choose to just flat out Americanize, they have that choice too.
there are plenty of legal immigrants who do not desire nor need to learn English as well. there are Korean, Russian, Armenian, Philipino, Chinese etc communities where immigrants do not need to learn the language either.
True, but the majority of those other communities speak english so that they can function within mainstream American society. I don't think that other languages should be banned, but english should be a common ground for all in America. The melting pot that America is, english should be the national language so all the diverse people can communicate to one another.
I got to see a Korean guy, an Arab guy and a Latino guy try to speak to one another in their own versions of broken english in Industry, CA at a gas station a few months ago..... priceless
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Originally posted by Tisby: Originally posted by Swazo: Man, we need major immigration law reform AND a much more secure border!
Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva: So revoke their welfare checks and make them do the work!
Why don't we have politicians like you guys?
Because: 1. welfare has been turned into an entitlement 2. anybody who tried to reform wefare is labeled a racist
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by Swazo: I got to see a Korean guy, an Arab guy and a Latino guy try to speak to one another in their own versions of broken english in Industry, CA at a gas station a few months ago..... priceless
Beautiful to see them try, though.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Yes it was, and without even their limited english they would've been SOL.
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Everyone running there mouth about iligals do all the sh!t jobs that our youth/highschool dropouts dont want to do is absolute B.S. Because every single penny that they make goes right back into mexico's economy, They all take the money home to there dying parents or there 15 kids. If they worked in america and payed american taxes and spent there money on the american economy, they should be able to work here(work visa's of course). But the problem is they become a leach on there local economys. 4 years ago a month after i bought my tour i was t-boned by an eligal imigrant who didnt speak english car wasnt regestered/insured. And it wasnt hers. She had zero forms of id. when the cops came, they let her use there phone to call someone to pick her up. She goes home, and then I get to pay 500$ duductable and my insurance pays 6,000 dollars to fix my car(i though for sure they were gonna total the tour) but blue book was still closer to 10-11k. Weeks go by my insurance company cant get ahold of the lady, police never found her, anybody want to guess were she ran off to? The only reason why i tell the story, is this happens all the time, and it is crushing our economy. My insurance goes up. becuase they cant find the lady and she has no insurance. I never get a point on my record cause the accedent is not my fault, But it still cost me 500$ + the premium increase. And if someone comes at me with the argument thats why we should give ilegals licenses, ill scream cause if an iligal gets an id. the last thing there gonna do is get insurance and pay money into our economy. And to anyone who wants to b!tch about my spelling, go fly a kite
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Exactly. Thank you for a real world scenario. And, for those saying that "They do the jobs Americans don't want to do..." I say you are wrong. They do those jobs because companies get away with paying those less than minimum wage salaries. While I was stationed in Djibouti (A country who's population is about 40% ILLEGAL immigrants...) they did a 'crazy' thing. They gave all illegal immigrants 30 days to get out of their country or they were going to 'helped' out of hte country. The French and 'rich' Djiboutians had the same cry going on within our country. "The illegals do all the jobs that others don't want!" However, after the mandate an the illegals were 'gone' ('gone' because Djibouti and most other countries can enforce border security) I didn't see or hear about anyoen complaining about jobs. (BTW, Djibouti has about a 60% unemployment rate.). With that said, I'd much rather pay MORE for goods knowing our borders are semi-secure than for cheaper things knowing anyone can get across... Originally posted by dubkatz: Everyone running there mouth about iligals do all the sh!t jobs that our youth/highschool dropouts dont want to do is absolute B.S. Because every single penny that they make goes right back into mexico's economy, They all take the money home to there dying parents or there 15 kids. If they worked in america and payed american taxes and spent there money on the american economy, they should be able to work here(work visa's of course). But the problem is they become a leach on there local economys. 4 years ago a month after i bought my tour i was t-boned by an eligal imigrant who didnt speak english car wasnt regestered/insured. And it wasnt hers. She had zero forms of id. when the cops came, they let her use there phone to call someone to pick her up. She goes home, and then I get to pay 500$ duductable and my insurance pays 6,000 dollars to fix my car(i though for sure they were gonna total the tour) but blue book was still closer to 10-11k. Weeks go by my insurance company cant get ahold of the lady, police never found her, anybody want to guess were she ran off to? The only reason why i tell the story, is this happens all the time, and it is crushing our economy. My insurance goes up. becuase they cant find the lady and she has no insurance. I never get a point on my record cause the accedent is not my fault, But it still cost me 500$ + the premium increase. And if someone comes at me with the argument thats why we should give ilegals licenses, ill scream cause if an iligal gets an id. the last thing there gonna do is get insurance and pay money into our economy. And to anyone who wants to b!tch about my spelling, go fly a kite
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Originally posted by dubkatz: Everyone running there mouth about iligals do all the sh!t jobs that our youth/highschool dropouts dont want to do is absolute B.S. Because every single penny that they make goes right back into mexico's economy, They all take the money home to there dying parents or there 15 kids. If they worked in america and payed american taxes and spent there money on the american economy, they should be able to work here(work visa's of course). But the problem is they become a leach on there local economys. 4 years ago a month after i bought my tour i was t-boned by an eligal imigrant who didnt speak english car wasnt regestered/insured. And it wasnt hers. She had zero forms of id. when the cops came, they let her use there phone to call someone to pick her up. She goes home, and then I get to pay 500$ duductable and my insurance pays 6,000 dollars to fix my car(i though for sure they were gonna total the tour) but blue book was still closer to 10-11k. Weeks go by my insurance company cant get ahold of the lady, police never found her, anybody want to guess were she ran off to? The only reason why i tell the story, is this happens all the time, and it is crushing our economy. My insurance goes up. becuase they cant find the lady and she has no insurance. I never get a point on my record cause the accedent is not my fault, But it still cost me 500$ + the premium increase. And if someone comes at me with the argument thats why we should give ilegals licenses, ill scream cause if an iligal gets an id. the last thing there gonna do is get insurance and pay money into our economy. And to anyone who wants to b!tch about my spelling, go fly a kite
had you had "uninsured motorist" (which you need to living in So Cal for this very reason) you would not have had to pay a dime.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by dubkatz: And to anyone who wants to b!tch about my spelling, go fly a kite
I'm gonna fly my "don't avoid the language filters" kite right up your ass please don't do it again.
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Originally posted by frenchblueC2: Originally posted by dubkatz: And to anyone who wants to b!tch about my spelling, go fly a kite
I'm gonna fly my "don't avoid the language filters" kite right up your ass please don't do it again.
I second that, but wont be as nice!! 
If you guys want to carry on a conversation, you will have to do it within the rules.
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