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Originally posted by Matt R:
You are not safely driving at 80mph. The speed limit is there for a damn good reason.
The speed limit is such an archane rule, especially on the highway. You have to realize that the majority of these limits were set by engineers (I use that term loosely) 30, 40, 50? years ago? When cars were a lot slower, handled worse, less safe etc.
Am I saying we should repeal speed limits completely, no way, I think there are a lot of situtions where speed limits are good, like in towns and on city streets. However, on the highway it is another story. A "safe" speed depends on many things, not least of which is vehicle. Unfortunately, we will never see a limit-less highway in our lifetimes in the US because of the lack of judgement and responsibility by many of our drivers.
As for the original post, the guy in the Talon should/could be held liable for causing the accident, but not for her death. At worst that is contributory negligence.
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I've gotta start investing in a bulletproof vest, because if they can protect against bullets, they can also protect against flying shrapnel (from being parts of vehicles) from puncturing through my lungs.
I'll be praying for the woman and her family.
What is the web address of the news channel your friend saw about the accident?
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Does anyone know of the website that gave the accident report? I'd like to read up on it.
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Motor vehicle laws expect you to be responsible for your vehicle. Sucks, because if you have to swerve to avoid a head on collision and wrap your car around a tree, you're at fault.
The only way I'm thinking he could be charged with causing the accident is if he actually hit her, causing her to lose control. In that case his action would have directly caused loss of control. As you described the accident, he probably didn't hit her, and therefore he probably can't be held liable for her accident.
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Originally posted by Matt R:
Originally posted by bigworm:
i always drive 10 to 15 miles over the speed limit in perfect weather ive had tires blown out at various speeds in various cars not all mine and im here till this day thank god and i have not hit no one else. i feel comfertable going 80 in my car i always physically look to the left or right before changing lanes to actually see with my eyes if a car is next to me i always drive about 25 feet away from someone when im speeding and try to look ahead for signs of someone slowing down. dont blame speed blame not knowing what to do. when something goes down i let go off the gas have both hands on the wheel keep it steady and slow down if i can i swear out of the way. then again i do have alot of non stock parts in my car and my car has lowered hard suspension. its stupid to blame someone for speeding and having a tire blown out. ive had tire blow outs going 30 mph. the blame should go to the lame driving requirements set by the states. on the autoban you can go crazy fast and they have less accidents per year than we over here and we drive slower.
You are not safely driving at 80mph. The speed limit is there for a damn good reason. You say you drive 25 ft away from other cars... at 80mph you should be 8 car lenghts away , minimum, in dry conditions. Non stock parts do not make much of a difference, unless you have a huge brake kit. What kind of "lame" driving requirements are there here? And most people that drive the autoban know their cars. And you know why they have less crashes? It is only one road! We have thousands. Besides the fact, it you loose control at 80 mph and hit a tree or 150 mph and hit a tree, you are screwed either way. Don't run around saying you are a safe driver and everything when you drive 15 mph over the posted limit. You are talking over 350 ft to stop at that speed, and in wet weather, even more. I hope you aren't behind me in an emergnency situation. 
i do have good breaks good tires and good suspension it doesnt matter how i drive or when i drive what matters is if you/anyone was in a emergency situation and i could help them i would that.
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I know how you feel. About 5 years ago, a kid in a cutlass was doing about 90 and hit the phone pole in front of my house. It wasn't even recognizable as a car, and the kid was totally trapped by twisted metal, and unconscious. We called 911, but then the car caught fire. My wife, roomate and I hooked up our garden hose but it wouldn't reach the road. The spare hose was frozen (it was Feb.), so we threw snow on the kid as he burned. I can still hear him and smell him burning. We finally got the fire down when the fire dept. came. They spent 1.5 hours just cutting him out of the wreck, and when they pulled him out, his leg fell off. He lost the leg, but survived.
His mom thanked us later, and he eventually came by to do likewise. During this conversation, he mentionede that he still drove fast. I couldn't believe it. I had nightmares for years.
Just read in the paper about a month ago that he crossed the centerline on a highway and died in that crash. We do what we can to help people, but ultimately they make their own choices. Hope you're ok, and her family is too.
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Originally posted by chomusclavus:
I've gotta start investing in a bulletproof vest, because if they can protect against bullets, they can also protect against flying shrapnel (from being parts of vehicles) from puncturing through my lungs.
I'll be praying for the woman and her family.
What is the web address of the news channel your friend saw about the accident?
First, a bulletproof vest stops the blunt force of a bullett. It doesn't stop penetrating sharp objects... that is a whole differnet vest. And also, there is not really any flying shrapnel in an accidnet... maybe some flying broken glass cubes, but geez, cars don't explode like a gernade and throw pieces of metal off in an accident.
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Originally posted by Stazi:
Best post today! 
+1 I agree
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Originally posted by chomusclavus:
Hmm. I don't remember watching that show. Besides, how did my previous post have anything to do with watching "The One"?
Now anyways, did that woman survive?
The one is the exact storyline of what you're believing in... no matter how much hashish necessary used to figure out thats what you believe in... its already been made into a movie 
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If you are coming up on traffic at a high speed, it is YOUR responsibility to slow down. I always drive with an exit. This guy in the Talon obviously didn't think about anything than racing that motorcycle. Sure your car CAN handle the road at higher speeds than say 55, but what about with lots of people on them? This is a different case than racing on an empty road at night. This was with other traffic. Big no-no to me.
You need to remember that these are public roads that you must share with cars from Enzos to Yugos. Highways have multiple lanes for this reason, but it is still one road. Sure the Ferrari can cruise in the left lane faster and "safer" than the Yugo, but there is no wall between the lanes. They must all obey the same laws.
Racing on a public road going at least over 20 MPH with traffic present should be manslaughter if it results in the death of another motorist. That woman was a fool, but that does not make the other guy innocent. He should have slowed down and waited for less traffic. End of story.
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