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Watch "Dead Wrong" on CNN @ 8pm EST. These "conspiracy theories" are going to be gone through in detail by people who were in Dubbya's inner circle.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
No I rely on what we know, not what you theorize. 
Fair enough. Tell us what you know about Ahmed Chalabi and "Curveball".
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Fair enough. Tell us what you know about Ahmed Chalabi and "Curveball".
Tell me how you know "Clearly it was a major goal of the neo-cons and the Bush Adminstration to somehow justify a war against Iraq - even before September 11"
I know it wasnt a goal of mine. 
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Ten Sources off the top of my head:
01. Author/Biographer Mickey Herskowitz
02. Former Treasury Secretary Secretary Paul O'Neil
03. Former WHite House Advisor Richard Clarke
04. Former Wall Street Journal Reporter Ron Suskind
05. The Downing Street Memo
06. Senator Chuck Rangel (DNY)
07. The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) Manifesto
08. Retired Army General and former director of the NSA William Odom
09. Author Robert Woodward
10. Author James Bamford
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11. CNN
12. ABC
13. NBC
14. NY Times
15. Washington Post
And wait a second. You really believe that Paul O'Neil is part of some elaborate anti-Bush conspiracy yet you accept the word of Glen Beck as gospel?
Tell me, what evidence leads you to conclude that the Bush Administration was objectively assessing intelligence in order to determinine whether to attack Iraq in the aftermath of 9/11? Can you name any legitimate (i.e. not owned by Rupert Murdoch or the Rev. Moon) newspaper or TV network that supports your theory?
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
11. CNN
12. ABC
13. NBC
14. NY Times
15. Washington Post
 LMAO
Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
And wait a second. You really believe that Paul O'Neil is part of some elaborate anti-Bush conspiracy yet you accept the word of Glen Beck as gospel?
1. Not an elaborate conspiracy. Just a disgruntled former Bush Admin official who needed to sell a book, exactly like I said. You always fail when to try to put words into my mouth, so I don't know why you keep doing it.
2. Not sure how one can consider the opinion of another to be Gospel. If you're referring to the link I posted to his site, that was more or less a collection of quotes. There isn't one word of opinion from Glenn Beck on that page.
Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Tell me, what evidence leads you to conclude that the Bush Administration was objectively assessing intelligence in order to determinine whether to attack Iraq in the aftermath of 9/11? Can you name any legitimate (i.e. not owned by Rupert Murdoch or the Rev. Moon) newspaper or TV network that supports your theory?
LMAO again. So journalists have to bless something in order for it to be true? Bwaahahaaaaaaahhaaaaaahhaaaaaaa
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16. John Dean
17. Newsweek
18. The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
19. Former US Marine Major and UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter
20. Herman Goering
21. S. Eugene Poteat - Pesident of the Acssociation of Former Intelligence Officers (McLean, VA)
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Originally posted by Davo:
LMAO again. So journalists have to bless something in order for it to be true? Bwaahahaaaaaaahhaaaaaahhaaaaaaa
So the knowledge and information that you have about the Bush Administration's role in the Iraq War does not come from anything you have read or seen on TV, the radio or the internet? Where do you get your information? Do you have an inside source in the White House?
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I don't have to have an inside source. All I need is to know and understand the facts, and use my judgement to come to a conclusion. But I am curious as to how you include all these unbiased news outlets such as CNN and CBS as valid sources of information yet you want to discount something owned by Rupert Murdoch?
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