it's fruitless trying to discuss this issue with the conservative extremist group (CEG). this lady is upset that she lost her son, but never said she didn't support the troops still over there. i'm sure she hopes they all get back safely - as we all do. i bet she's very salty that her son (a reserve) had to go fight in iraq for a war where the main objectives and goals have been a moving target from the time the bush admin admitted their intelligence was flawed. then they changed the reasons to something 'honorable' like iraqi freedom and democracy. complete and utter bullsh!t. we could be fighting that cause all over the world in countries where it's more honorable than in iraq. something the conservative right wing will never admit to.

the iraq war has been a hallmark of nothing but bad management, planning, and decision making.

it's funny how anyone questioning why the bush admin's top 3 reasons for going to war in iraq were COMPLETELY wrong are immediately shouted down by the conservative right wing. you guys will never admit to the errors. and yes they knew before hand their top 3 reasons were shaky at best and came from an unreliable source - despite the chest puffing by saddam.

to say the war in iraq was always about creating iraqi democracy, regime change, and creating a better life for all iraqi's is so outrageously laughable i refuse to discuss those points any longer with you guys. that's what the reasons changed to after the bottom fell out from underneath the other scary reasons bush said we needed to go - remember the nukes, wmds, al qaeda links ?

i agree we cannot pull out now, things will definitely get worse if we leave before we give the iraqis a fighting chance to make it work. unfortunately seeing the way things are going now, they will probably get worse before they get better. civil war is most likely pending our troop pull out. would that leave them in a better or worse state...


oh and when all else fails for the conservatives blame clinton!


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