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Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
The President already has met with her. It's sad that her son died in Iraq, but it doesn't give her the right to access Bush whenever she wants.
All of a sudden she turns into a stalker with moveon.org to assist her. I'm sorry, but it's not sane.
i agree, he has meet with her two times to be correct. she is worse than a stalker she has become the drumbeat of moveon.org.
not having both oars in the water was a reply to your stix and stones comment. i have been there.
i do not mean to bite anyone's head off but his choice of words were wrong. no persons life given for mine or anyone else's freedom is a mistake.
i will sleep now...
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I dont know why shes blaming Bush. Its not like he got drafted or was forced to go into the Army. That woman disgusts me.
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Originally posted by sleeper357:
Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
The President already has met with her. It's sad that her son died in Iraq, but it doesn't give her the right to access Bush whenever she wants.
All of a sudden she turns into a stalker with moveon.org to assist her. I'm sorry, but it's not sane.
i agree, he has meet with her two times to be correct. she is worse than a stalker she has become the drumbeat of moveon.org.
Maybe she's trying to prevent GW from winning another term in office... 
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
I'm glad that we still have people like this kid and will fight for morons such as yourself....
For what did this kid die and how exactly was it for me?
Iraq was never a threat to any of us here. The threat is Al Qaida and before we stepped into Iraq, they were located in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia - almost everywhere BUT Iraq.
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
For what did this kid die and how exactly was it for me?
He died as an American soldier. If you consider yourself an American, he died for you. If you think otherwise, then I recommend you engage in a serious examination of conscience.
Damn, what the [censored] is wrong with you?
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
For what did this kid die and how exactly was it for me?
he was a soldier, whether an airman, seaman, soldier or marine, serving in the military of the united states of america and whether or not you agree with the war at hand you are honor bound (i am assuming you have some) to support them. this kid died in the service of his country performing duties his country asked of him! you are (i am again assuming) a part of this country and by extention a part of what he is defending. whether or not you agree with this war or the way it is progressing is irrelevant. the fact is we are where we are doing what we are doing. punishing our serviceman for disagreements you have with the polititians in power is childish and dishonorable.
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
I'm glad that we still have people like this kid and will fight for morons such as yourself....
For what did this kid die and how exactly was it for me?
Iraq was never a threat to any of us here. The threat is Al Qaida and before we stepped into Iraq, they were located in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia - almost everywhere BUT Iraq.
wow....just wow....can a person really be this stupid?????
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
For what did this kid die and how exactly was it for me?
Iraq was never a threat to any of us here. The threat is Al Qaida and before we stepped into Iraq, they were located in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia - almost everywhere BUT Iraq.
And guess what? Now Al Queda and all other terroist groups are bringing the war to Iraq and no the USA. SO yes, he died instead of you or I. I'd rather have our soldiers fighting a war on terrorism in Iraq then on our own soil and that is what is happening now. Thats the way I see it and I thank him for his bravery. If you want to close your eyes and say Bush lied on purpose for alterior motives then that shows you are just as much in line with moveon.org and this crazy mother who is pissing on her sons grave.
While we are at it, are you saying the troops in WWI and WWII died in vain as well?
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
For what did this kid die and how exactly was it for me?
Oh, I'm close to being damn-sure it wasn't for you. I think you can rest comfortable in your bed tonight knowing that despite what most US soldiers are trained to say, a good many of them probably rather resent putting their lives on the line for a certain percentage of the US population, no matter WHAT the cause. I could be wrong, though...
As for the question "What did he die for?":
Duty. The chance for Iraqi freedom and democracy, as well as protecting US interests abroad. Period.
Are Iraqis not worth dying for, especially now if we pull out and let the place turn into a cesspool of civil war, thereby losing 100x the lives lost daily now?
Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Iraq was never a threat to any of us here. The threat is Al Qaida and before we stepped into Iraq, they were located in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia - almost everywhere BUT Iraq.
Is Capt. Hindsight telling me that the entire planet knew of these KEY facts before the invasion? If so and if you want to hop into Wonderland for a while and totally ignore the impetus that 9/11 served, you might have a point.
Otherwise...
Iraq has become somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy; no, it wasn't the terrorist hotbed and chem factory that every intelligence agency on the planet made it out to be and what Iraq ITSELF pretended to be for so long. However, due to one of the most twisted and perverse ironies in modern history, it has been in the throes of becoming just that with a select group of international powers doing their best in difficult circumstances to keep the lid on those that wish to turn Iraq into even MORE of a bloodbath that it already has been.
It's called making the best of a bad situation; it was a train-wreck before we got there and even though it's still one now, it NEVER would have had a chance to become something better than that if the US and other hadn't of intervened for what has apparently been with the best of intentions but ultimately what has turned out to be many a wrong reason.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Damn, what the [censored] is wrong with you?
He's a liberal, thats whats wrong with him.
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