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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I think the arguement of regular school vs. year long takes a back seat to what is being taught. I learned almost nothing in high school and had over a 4.0gpa . Slept in most classes,etc.
You broke the scale?
AP classes are based on a 5.0 scale.
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My girlfriend is a school counsellor and would gladly give up the 2-3 month vacation to get more continuity with the students.
Often, the first quarter of a traditional school year is review. The theory is if they didn't have the long summer break, and simply had several shorter breaks during the year, the students would retain the material better.
She does indicate that many teachers like the long break as they can take summer jobs, teach summer school for extra $$$, or take long trips.
I just returned from Lima Peru 8 days ago. Our guide for the mission trip is a teacher and uses her summers to lead mission trips as well as teach English to Spanish speakers in Peru.
The long summer vacation does give a bit more flexibility to some families and creates problems for others.
From a physical resource POV only, it seems like a smarter way to use the physical plant. Instead of having the building nearly idle for 2-3 months during the summer, have just a one month summer break for critical maintenance and use the building more days/year teaching students.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I know south georgia is a lot worse than other places, but I can't imagine it being too different elsewhere.
Perhaps not different than the majority of other school districts across the nation but many, many school districts are very difficult.
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I was completely unprepared for college. Schools need to take on a more college like feel. Classes more orientated to what the student wants to focus on, harder tests, and more educating. I feel like other than learning to read, write, and do basic arithmetic, my first 13 years of education were pretty useless. Sure kids will whine about how hard school is, but it needs to be.
The freedom experienced at most of the larger post-secondary institutions would be succeptible to rampant abuse should it be utilized in secondary education. Elementary and high-school definitely needs to be made more challenging--but most of all students need to be actually held to the standards already in place. Too many students are being passed just to get them through the system.
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I also don't believe in mandatory attendance at school. If kids don't want to be there and their parents won't make them be there, don't force them to be there. They end up being distractions to other students.
Sure, students who would rather drop out might be distractions to other students, but imagine a nation where the majority of the populace lacked even basic skills.
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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Sure, students who would rather drop out might be distractions to other students, but imagine a nation where the majority of the populace lacked even basic skills.
I didn't mean on like a first to fifth grade kind of level. I mainly meant high school. But I do meet a lot of people that are poor in performing basic things, not hard to imagine at all. I don't think the majority of students would drop out and I also believe it to be the parents responsibility to make sure a child attends school and behaves properly.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Don't know where you work, but I don't get to take week-long breaks every couple of months.
Why not? I get 4 weeks of vacation a year. Thats one week every 3 months.
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Originally posted by �½ * �½ = �¼:
Why not? I get 4 weeks of vacation a year. Thats one week every 3 months.
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Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Originally posted by SVTNupe:
Don't you think it'd be more beneficial if students went to school year round with periodic (maybe week long) breaks? It seems quite an inconvienence when kids are off for three months at a time with parents who both work.
And there is the attitude that has destroyed America as it once was. Kids are no longer a blessing. They are an INCONVENIENCE. Man, I can't stand this attitude. If you don't want the INCONVENIENCE of kids, then guess what.....DON'T HAVE THEM! And to ensure this, don't get married and don't have sex. Kids are kids and they NEED the time to run, to play, to relax, to forget about the homework they have due tomorrow, or next week. And they need to see that their parents view them as MORE IMPORTANT than any job outside the home...
I agree with 99SESPORT. Too many do not make their kids their #1 priority, however, I don't know if this is any less so than in the "good old days."
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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Sure, students who would rather drop out might be distractions to other students, but imagine a nation where the majority of the populace lacked even basic skills.
I agree with your statment, but like you said "most get passed along just to get them out the system". Teachers pass them just to get them out of their hair. I believe we could have make more productive use of our teachers time allowing them to teach kids that want to learn. Take one of my closest friends as example. He was lacking in the brains department but could weld like no one I had ever seen. He can't write a paper to save his life, but he making a very nice living where he works.
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The Mississippi public school system needs an full overhaul! Since our school system is run like one big pyramid scheme, it wouldn't matter if the students went year `round or not. 
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I think year 'round school is a great idea (now that I'm out, heh...). But, I think each state should enforce the switch at once (similar to the quarter -> semester conversion in Georgia colleges in 99.) This way, afterschool care (day-cares, kid camps {summer camps,etc}, and the like) can all be setup to coincide with the cutover. Also, employers would be able to draft changes to assist parents with time off and such.
I dunno... Most of the above conversations seem to stem from "think of the kids/teachers/administrators". I just think that THEY (school board system) need to take into account the parents.
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