Originally posted by svt4stv:
Originally posted by Swazo:
Cry me a river, you don't see all those other ethnicities swarm to the US illegally by the millions every year. They all become Americans the right way, they may have found loop holes in our craptasitc system but at least they use it, rather than ignore it. They also take part in American society, not try to recreate everything to suit them because of their lack of education/unwillingness to adapt to their new environment.




you live in UTAH ! come down to Glendale or North Hollywood some time. Glendale has the 2nd largest armenian popluation in the world after Armenia. puhleaz, if you think these millions of armos and persians are here legally and dont have forged paperwork, then ive got some nice beachfront property id like to show you. it didnt take them ten years to get in here. some cash and some nice looking papers can get you in real fast. theyre not just exploiting loopholes in our system, its called "FRAUD." i worked in glendale. one of my co-workers told me that when they come over here they are practically handed booklets from the armenian community on how to get free welfare, workmen's comp, and so on. I worked for a worker's comp quasi state agency. tons of armenian "injured" workers with, suprise, armenian lawyers and doctors. nice little setup they have down there in glendale. my father was an installer for PacBell. he was stationed in LaCrescenta, a VERY expensive community near Glendale. as installers, they get to see all the customer's financial info on their accounts. he said he was shocked at how many of these people sit around in their million dollar homes all day with their Sclasses parked in front and are on the low income phone plan for $10 a month and are on welfare. i have had the "privilege" of meeting many young adult armenians and persian guys who are on welfare and drive Sclass and 7 series. many. many also who have been busted for banking schemes and fraud. its like my Russian immigrant friend recently told me. "Russian and Armenian people are the best scammers in the world. In Russia that is practically the only way to survive, by stealing and cheating the system. that's why so many of them are involved in it here. and theyre good at it." i know a persian guy, since high school, who was busted for running a credit card ring about two years ago. about 30 persian guys involved, all arrested, no one did any jail time. they all have money, illegaly obtained of course, and paid big shot lawyers to get them off. guess what, theyre still doing it. if you ever have the "opportunity" to have your identity or social security # stolen, remember that. please send me a pm so i can say "cry me a river" as i see him roll down the street in one of his TWO convertible porsches that he bought cash. its so funny. i sit here and read about how you guys are all so concerned with illegal immigrants "soaking" up resources when these "legal" (or who knows wtf) immigrants are swiping #s at banks and housing lenders daily and selling "your" info on the internet. i see reports about it all the time on the news about how some poor person's life was ruined because of this and how "you can protect your ......" juuuuust wait till it happens to someone you know. then you'll be posting, f*ck marijuana smuggling, how does my .........get their life back in order?!

oh yeah, lets not forget our chinese friends who come in by the hundreds through the port of los angeles everyday in containers. payoffs to russian and italian outfits that control the ports allows them to get through. and they say there is "no mob in LA" lol. stop by chinatown or monteray park next time youre in LA and see adaptive the chinese have become.

you still didnt answer my ? about what we do with the children of illegal immigrant who are born here and are legal AMERICAN CITIZENS. I taught in a public school for three years. believe me, many many of the parents are illegal, but most of the kids are born and raised here (teachers get to see this confidential information in the CUM files). many dont even speak spanish. the #s in the ESL classes dont even come close to the # of hispanic kids (children of illegal immigrants) who are in regular classes and have been attending school since day 1.



I have been all through out California as I've lived there and I work there. I'm in California more than I'm in Utah, or atleast in the last 2 years.

I've been to Glendale a fair amount actually, but I didn't notice what you're speaking of. But then again, I don't live there so that doesn't shock me.
Compared to the fraud/mooching of the system, I would bet that the Latino illegal immigrants are hitting the state of California much harder than others. I know the Russians are pretty shisty, they had to deal with the black market to get anything of value under the Soviet BS. I don't doubt other ethnicities have found ways to gyp the system and even American citizens do it. But, let's look at the bigger picture and look at who's doing the most damage. A small population of Chinese endentured slaves giving happy endings in SF isn't as bad as what Latino illegal immigrants do as a whole to America.

I'm a softie for kids, and I wouldn't send them or their parents back to their country of origin. America is their home, but again there is that issue with the illegal immigrant society within America that I don't like.


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