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Originally posted by svt4stv:
Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Which still means they broke the law and they should be PUNISHED for it, not rewarded with citizenship.
Originally posted by svt4stv:
wow. theyre's Bilblical principles at work for ya. 
Exactly.
What would Jesus do?
Jesus would forgive and accept everyone as they are, but wait, maybe that's just a a cute little saying you put on your little necklace and keychain ring to wear when you go to church on Sunday and pretend to love everyone. 
Please tell me you are kidding right? Jesus never condoned the breaking of the law. Jesus was all about forgiveness , for anything and everything, but forgiveness does not remove the consequences of your sin.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Some of my family members have came to this country illegaly. ALl of them had NOTHING when they came here. All of of them have busted their A$$ (more than people like YOU would) to make a living for themselves. Spending AMERICAN DOLLARS on AMERICAN ITEMS to send back to Mexico to help out their families. All of my family that have came here are legal now but never asked for anything in return. And guess what? They pay taxes like you or me; now and back then when they were illegal.
Now put yourself in someone else's shoes before making bonehead comments like you did.
Ahhh so now we know why you support illegal immigrants. Well I still disagree. The ends do not justify the means. No matter how good of a person they are, it is still illegal.
so what youre saying Corbett, is that if millions of Mexicans, Haitians and whoever came here and used up all of our resources like schools, hospitals, tax dollars and quality breathing air, you'd have no problem with that as long as they had a little piece of paper making it "legal". Riiiiight. why dont you just admit that you dont want Mexican, or other, people coming here period. Stop trying to mask it with "right and wrong" bs. 
a nation full of anglo Bilble-thumpers.  ahhh paradise!
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Which still means they broke the law and they should be PUNISHED for it, not rewarded with citizenship.
Originally posted by svt4stv:
wow. theyre's Bilblical principles at work for ya.
Exactly.
What would Jesus do?
Jesus would forgive and accept everyone as they are, but wait, maybe that's just a a cute little saying you put on your little necklace and keychain ring to wear when you go to church on Sunday and pretend to love everyone.
Please tell me you are kidding right? Jesus never condoned the breaking of the law. Jesus was all about forgiveness , for anything and everything, but forgiveness does not remove the consequences of your sin.
so border-crossing is a sin now huh? ive been going to church for almost 30 years and i have yet to hear that one. and to think, my church is Lutheran, 95% white, and i still have never heard that one. 
The only sins i recall the Bible mentioning are listed in the 10 commandments. dont recall Thou shalt not cross the border illegaly!
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
so border-crossing is a sin now huh? ive been going to church for almost 30 years and i have yet to hear that one. and to think, my church is Lutheran, 95% white, and i still have never heard that one.
The only sins i recall the Bible mentioning are listed in the 10 commandments. dont recall Thou shalt not cross the border illegaly!
Again, please tell me you are kidding right?
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what? is border-crossing in the Bible? or you that i go to a nearly all white church. i know, shocking isnt it.  yes, there are Christians in California. yes, some of them are even black, brown and asian. 
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Originally posted by Pigeon:
Here's an honest question: How hard is it to legally emigrate from Mexico to the US? What's involved, how much does it cost, how long does it take, etc.?
Scott
Its usually a very long process. Sometimes you can apply for citizenship and itll take a little over a decade to finally get your meeting to be interviewed for citizenship. If you have legal children over the legal age they can petition for you to become legal and its easier that way. I dont know the exact details but i know that it can take MANY years to do it right. Its not expensive as far as i know, but you have to make sure to keep a clean record for everything.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
so what youre saying Corbett, is that if millions of Mexicans, Haitians and whoever came here and used up all of our resources like schools, hospitals, tax dollars and quality breathing air, you'd have no problem with that as long as they had a little piece of paper making it "legal". Riiiiight. why dont you just admit that you dont want Mexican, or other, people coming here period. Stop trying to mask it with "right and wrong" bs.
a nation full of anglo Bilble-thumpers. ahhh paradise!
No, if they were doing it legally there whould not be millions of mexicans and hatians "using up out resources". We wouldn't let that many in. Who said anything about not liking mexicans? I work with mexicans and I know a lot of them. I have no problem with the ones who are here legally.
And even though the Bible does not specifically say that crossing over the border into the US is illegal, that does not change the fact that a Biblical principle would be considered to obey the law, one of which, is to not come into this country illegally.
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so if you had to choose between obeying "God's law" and "man's law".....which would you choose? and would you be an awful sinner because you did so? and why wouldnt we let millions of them in? after all, you have no problem with it, as long as it's done legally. right??? and wait a minute, let me get this straight, theyre only using up resources because theyre illegal right? so there are no legal citizens here that are unemployed, dont have medical insurance and are going to school for free. riiiiight.. why dont we just toss out everyone who doesnt have a job, medical insurance, a retirement plan or pay for tuition?? after all, money seems to be the big concern right? there are tons of white and black people (legal) in this country leeching off society already. many are able to work too. isnt that some sort of sin? here's an idea, why dont we stone them all  you know, all this back and forth talk is quite moot anyways. theyre coming, you know theyre coming, and nothing you nor i say or do is going to do anything about that. cut off all available resources? you think that's going to stop them? people who emigrate here from china, mexico, haiti, el salvador, etc... dont even have that at home. at least here they can make some money. so that's kinda like slapping a band aid on the problem. you can stand next to your dome tent at the us/mex border with your binoculars and walkie talkies (all of which were made in china) and it isnt really going to do a damn thing is it? so you had better just get yourself enrolled in a spanish classes cuz theyre coming.   if youre "so concerned" with our economy than why dont you invest your principles in something more meaningful like the trade deficit and our oil dependency. then again, if it's just "coluhed" people you dont like, then by all means, keep on marching and saluting.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
The only sins i recall the Bible mentioning are listed in the 10 commandments. dont recall Thou shalt not cross the border illegaly!
So you honestly believe that the 10 commandments are the only thing we should live by in the Bible and nothing else? Maybe you were going to church for 30 years but it sounds like you weren't even paying attention or your church just doesnt teach what the Bible says. Either way, if you think Jesus would condone doing something illegal like crossing the border illegally then I don't know where you got that idea from.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
The only sins i recall the Bible mentioning are listed in the 10 commandments. dont recall Thou shalt not cross the border illegaly!
So you honestly believe that the 10 commandments are the only thing we should live by in the Bible and nothing else? Maybe you were going to church for 30 years but it sounds like you weren't even paying attention or your church just doesnt teach what the Bible says. Either way, if you think Jesus would condone doing something illegal like crossing the border illegally then I don't know where you got that idea from.
i dont know, why dont you "direct-connect" with Him. you always seem to have all the answers for everyone.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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