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About 30k on stockers with Ground Controls.... bouncy, but still going strong.
Vilkommen uh.... back.
'98 Contour SVT - Please pardon our dust, under heavy construction.
'96 Escort LX - Pretender to the throne.
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Originally posted by liquidX:
Originally posted by RandyCSVT:
Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by liquidX:
1.) B&G Autobahn Springs
2.) New SVT Struts
have fun replacing those struts in a month when they're totally SHOT. 
He beat me to it. HA HA you got served!
If I created a post with CEGr's that ran 20,000 plus miles on stock struts and lowering springs after already having them on for 50K or so, YOU would get served  .
Yeah, a lotta people do ride around on blown struts, sometimes never even realizing it. I guess you're sorta used to working on the suspension by now so it won't be too bad when you have to replace them.
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
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Originally posted by Matty K:
About 30k on stockers with Ground Controls.... bouncy
it's bouncy BEAUSE the struts are blown... 
Originally posted by liquidX:
If I created a post with CEGr's that ran 20,000 plus miles on stock struts and lowering springs after already having them on for 50K or so, YOU would get served .
no...i wouldnt...so go ahead and start that post whenever you're ready to prove yourself wrong.
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
Totaled 02/12/06
99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
Born 3/24/99 Reborn 3/18/06
Pietenpol Racing Technologies project vehicle
90 Festiva L 5spd, Blue(not for long), 103k
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Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by Matty K:
About 30k on stockers with Ground Controls.... bouncy
it's bouncy BEAUSE the struts are blown...
Not necessarily. A strut does not have to be blown to show incompetence with a spring. It could simply be out performed and just not work to it's full potential. My car rode bouncey on stockers and GC's for about 2K miles before the kapoof, but that was GROUND CONTROLS and STOCK STRUTS with about 66K already on. Surprised they even did 2K before the piston would literally fall back into the valve body with just gravity  .
Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by liquidX:
If I created a post with CEGr's that ran 20,000 plus miles on stock struts and lowering springs after already having them on for 50K or so, YOU would get served .
no...i wouldnt...so go ahead and start that post whenever you're ready to prove yourself wrong.
Most CEGr's would probably be too scared of flamage to post. Not like they would not receive generous amounts of "you dumb idiot I don't care if you ran 80K with stockers and L-Springs, IT'S JUST WRONG and you are going to hell!!!" from people like you...
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I went about 2 months on svt struts that had 50k miles on them with roush springs before they completely blew (which doesn't mean I couldn't drive on them, which is what anyone that says svt struts + lowering springs are fine are doing). Roush is like the highest lowering spring. So 2 months w/ the least drop available. I imagine new struts will last a bit longer. So in 4 months.........
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
CEG Dragon Run - October 13-15
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I went about 2 months on svt struts that had 50k miles on them with roush springs before they completely blew (which doesn't mean I couldn't drive on them, which is what anyone that says svt struts + lowering springs are fine are doing). Roush is like the highest lowering spring. So 2 months w/ the least drop available. I imagine new struts will last a bit longer. So in 4 months.........
Thank you...
X, i don't care what you THINK you know...the simple fact of the matter is that stock struts, SVT or non, ARE NOT designed to handle any kind of suspension drop and WILL fail(in a reasonably short time) even faster with the brutal 2.25" drop your putting on....
give it up
so once again i'ld like to say...
Originally posted by pole120:
have fun replacing those struts in a month when they're totally SHOT.
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
Totaled 02/12/06
99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
Born 3/24/99 Reborn 3/18/06
Pietenpol Racing Technologies project vehicle
90 Festiva L 5spd, Blue(not for long), 103k
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Run with what you will, but no one should make bold statements that state that stock struts with a lowering spring is fine - it's not. Stock struts are not designed to work with lowering springs. Doing so will result in failure. How early they fail is dependent on numerous factors such as wheel/tire size, road conditions, driving style, etc.
X, you got a good deal yes, but ideally you want a strut that is designed to work with a lowering spring. My advice, sell the SVT struts for a small profit and get yourself struts that are designed to go with lowering springs.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I went about 2 months on svt struts that had 50k miles on them with roush springs before they completely blew (which doesn't mean I couldn't drive on them, which is what anyone that says svt struts + lowering springs are fine are doing). Roush is like the highest lowering spring. So 2 months w/ the least drop available. I imagine new struts will last a bit longer. So in 4 months.........
Shows much knowledge about the average suspension knowledge in this place... I thought it was spring rates that primarily killed shocks, now it's spring height . For the records, if you are speaking of suspension travel, it is probably a 30% factor of strut affection. After that it's the spring rates that play a major role in a strut's life. Also, the actual coil's height has nothing to do with the ride height. It's the amount of dead coils and spring rate of the "stiff" coils that determine ride height (When struts are assembled they are always the same height regardless of the type of spring, and it's when you put the car down that you mean business). Also on a side note, my B & G Autobahn springs were slightly taller than even stock springs, thus helping my point.
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Originally posted by SVT PETE:
Run with what you will, but no one should make bold statements that state that stock struts with a lowering spring is fine - it's not. Stock struts are not designed to work with lowering springs. Doing so will result in failure. How early they fail is dependent on numerous factors such as wheel/tire size, road conditions, driving style, etc.
X, you got a good deal yes, but ideally you want a strut that is designed to work with a lowering spring. My advice, sell the SVT struts for a small profit and get yourself struts that are designed to go with lowering springs.
 Had some Kahlua with your coffee this morning Pete?  I get your point though, and I never disagreed that it is better to use aftermarket performance struts with lowering springs nor made a contrary statement of such, ever. I only said that I was going with what I had just to solve a temporary fix as an economic alternative, and everybody just gave their $.50 cents. Oh well, to each his own. Pole you gonna come hunt me down and shoot me next? 
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I'm not sure what this has to do with this thread, but I've had stock struts and H&R springs for almost three years and over 40,000 miles. The struts have just recently started to get bad.
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