No, i showed him the July 17 and the May 9 results

and a compilation of all the pics i could find. To answer someone's question as to what the pics would prove, his whole arguement was if they (contours) are good at twisties how come no one auto-x's them. Of course my reply was lots of people auto-x them, so the pics were just proof that people do infact auto-x and the times show that they do well in events!