Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Swazo:

Did you already forget about abortion clinic attackers/ bombers and even the Aryan Nation? They have their christian beliefs that they force upon the US with force.



1. I find it to be quite the paradox that you claim people are having Christianity forced upon them when you yourself are far from a Christian (and you aren't the only one).

Originally posted by Swazo:
They may not be AS crazy (or educated for that matter) so they don't take it to his level. I'm not trying to water down OBL or what he has done.



2. FINALLY.

Originally posted by Swazo:
Yeah, you're right davo. I bet he would've done the same exact thing if it was a Muslim sect being stomped out by the Feds. He just hated the Federal government and that's the ONLY reason he AND others did what they did



3. I'd be willing to examine any proof you have that he murdered 168 people in the name of Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by Swazo:
I'm saying that you cannot blame Islam for what a sect does, just like you cannot blame Christianity for what a small number of them do (Abortion clinic attacks, OKC, or an actual church like the Aryan Nation). I wanted to show that no religion will do things like this, rational people simply are above things like this.



4. Are you calling religious people irrational? Nice of you to take the self-righteous sectarian ground here, it's very pretty and convenient.




1. I can see the fault with Christians as much as I can see the fault with Muslims. I don't over look wrong doing by them, how is that a bad thing? There hasn't been threads about what good things religions have done, so you are simply ASSuming things again.

2. Finally what? I never tried to sugar coat what he has done. I have been showing that it's him and his sect, not Islam. I have been showing what so called "christians" do in the name of God, but that shouldn't label Christians as terrrorist either. You imply that Christians are the "good guys" and Muslims are the "bad guys", but things are not so black and white.

3. Never said that was his only resoning, only a partial reason.

4. Nope. Just showing that religion in the wrong hands lead to bad things, despite which one you choose to follow. I said no religion would commit evil, but that doesn't stop quacks from within to do so along with their own sheep to follow them. It's more about the person who's leading whatever flock in an alternate belief system that's based on their original religion. Ask an Afgan how much they liked the Taliban telling them how they should practice their religion. Or ask them how they liked how arrogant many of the Islamic freedom fighters from other Arab countries were and how they'd handle them when they stepped out of line in when in Afghanistan. Islam is diverse with different versions that believe in different ways, just like the Christian faith.


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