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Originally posted by platinum_drew:
by lower I mean seniors taking alg 2 instead of smarty little sophmores taking alg 2, like I was  )
As a sophomore huh? I was acing that stuff as a freshman! 
And now 12 years later I just needed a quick refresher on how to multiply and divide longhand! Go figure...
Seriously though, the fact that so many students today cannot think through a problem and resort to 'I don't know' or 'I don't care' or 'I can't do it!' just underlines the education problems that we face in this country. And the last line in that email (the one in spanish) is the other problem... not too many people can translate it.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
^^^ (Worked for a wine shop that REQUIRED you to calculate tax manually. No electronic register.)
^^^ I bet that forced you to brush up on your Math real fast. 
"Always do the cheap and easy ones first."
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Originally posted by sail114:
And the last line in that email (the one in spanish) is the other problem... not too many people can translate it.
LOL.
"Always do the cheap and easy ones first."
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Originally posted by sail114:
Originally posted by platinum_drew:
by lower I mean seniors taking alg 2 instead of smarty little sophmores taking alg 2, like I was )
As a sophomore huh? I was acing that stuff as a freshman!
And now 12 years later I just needed a quick refresher on how to multiply and divide longhand! Go figure...
Seriously though, the fact that so many students today cannot think through a problem and resort to 'I don't know' or 'I don't care' or 'I can't do it!' just underlines the education problems that we face in this country. And the last line in that email (the one in spanish) is the other problem... not too many people can translate it.
yea, that's the earliest you can take it here. pre-alg in 7th, algebra in 8th, geometry in 9th, and alg 2 in 10th. dunnoy why they throw geometry in the middle 
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Originally posted by platinum_drew:
yea, that's the earliest you can take it here. pre-alg in 7th, algebra in 8th, geometry in 9th, and alg 2 in 10th. dunnoy why they throw geometry in the middle
Haha, was the same in high school for me, even taking the highest level courses offered. 11th grade was Advanced Algebra (basically some trig and precalc) and Statistics, and then 12th grade was Advanced Math (precalculus).
You'd be surprised the amount of people who were still in geometry by 11th grade. Worse still, those who took the route I did by 12th grade only had a choice for maths between precalc (easily the hardest course taught by the most difficult teacher) or Senior Review - joke algebra. 
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So true, so true...
We have to UNDERSTAND them...BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
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in school my only problem with math was how long some of the problems could be and i was lazy so i just didn't do it. i never did any homework and took the test cold based on what i heard in class and by some miracle i managed to pass trig and precal. ten years later though and i am in serious need of a refresher. atleast when i started school i went to a killer (academically speaking) private school where electronic devices were absolutely not allowed. sadly by the time i got to high school i was in public school in the lowest scoring district in the entire county where one day in math class every week was devoted to learning how to use the calculater. no joke guys. rather than teach us how to actually do the math ourselves they were content to teach us how to use the machines to do the math for us. 
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Originally posted by my csvt:
no joke guys. rather than teach us how to actually do the math ourselves they were content to teach us how to use the machines to do the math for us.
I'm lost without my TI-83+. I can't speak enough praise about that thing .. needless to say other people need to ask me where certain buttons are on it because I've worn the labels down to nothing since owning it in 1999.
My HS used the 83 officially and taught us use of it in some classes (stats especially), for which I am very thankful to my teacher for showing us how to properly utilize it in solving problems. We hooked them up to sensors in chemistry and plotted graphs with them, very helpful. Of course, we were always shown and tested using the pencil-and-paper way first, so it wasn't horribly corrupt teaching.
When I got to college, however, some of my friends had the TI-89 and "utilized" its functions when performing integral calculus on tests and homework. Maybe I'm just jealous my calculator couldn't do 3D graphing, but I'm not sure the advantage they were put in was effective in learning the material, since the profs didn't require you to do the work longhand.
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Originally posted by 98 SE:
I'm not sure the advantage they were put in was effective in learning the material, since the profs didn't require you to do the work longhand.
my point exactly. when i took a refresher course in college to meet the general ed requirements i was regularly the one of the last ones done because i refused to use a calculator while everyone else had the big fancy graphing calculators with all the necessary functions and crap needed for the test already programed in the night before. i was also one of the few who could actually do the math the old fashioned way.
on a side note, when i was a little boy and i started helping gramps in the family business (tagging along is probably more accurate) he demanded i do the addition in my head without using fingers or pen and paper. i have never seen anyone do math faster or more accurately than he did. when we were young sometimes we would grab a calculator and try to beat him to the answer. he was in his seventies before he lost.
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Originally posted by 98 SE:
Originally posted by my csvt:
no joke guys. rather than teach us how to actually do the math ourselves they were content to teach us how to use the machines to do the math for us.
I'm lost without my TI-83+. I can't speak enough praise about that thing .. needless to say other people need to ask me where certain buttons are on it because I've worn the labels down to nothing since owning it in 1999.
My HS used the 83 officially and taught us use of it in some classes (stats especially), for which I am very thankful to my teacher for showing us how to properly utilize it in solving problems. We hooked them up to sensors in chemistry and plotted graphs with them, very helpful. Of course, we were always shown and tested using the pencil-and-paper way first, so it wasn't horribly corrupt teaching.
When I got to college, however, some of my friends had the TI-89 and "utilized" its functions when performing integral calculus on tests and homework. Maybe I'm just jealous my calculator couldn't do 3D graphing, but I'm not sure the advantage they were put in was effective in learning the material, since the profs didn't require you to do the work longhand.
Once you've gone to the 89.....the 83 is complete crap...beyond its abilities over the 83, the user interface alone made it 100X better...
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