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Originally posted by Plain ole' todras: Originally posted by PDXSVT: How many people had access to the customer's computer? Did he buy it new, out of the wrapped sealed box? If there were more than one person with access, how would it be determined the correct person was being pursued?
If you gave a schoolmate of your kids a ride home, and unbeknownst to you or your kids, a residued crack pipe came out of the school kid's pocket and wedged in behind the rear passenger seat, you'd love having the cops charge you with possession.
Sometimes such calls to the cops make big media splashes. If the wrong person is pursued, how is that bell unrung?
On the other hand, if the customer HIMSELF did deliberate purchases, downloads, storage, and some prior owner, guest, prankster or cookie combo had nothing to do with it, you face less of a dilemma.
And if the weird stuff was wiped clean from his system and hard drive, what recourse could he claim against your shop?
Spoken like a true lawyer. If you bought a CPU from someone I doubt he'd just leave the files on the computer. How would you not find them yourself? I'm sure he'll get a lawyer like PDX and get off.
It's happened to me .. several times I've bought a used computer and discovered files on there (nothing horrible, but I did find bills once). Every time I nearly instantly reformatted the drive myself though.
Also, the crack pipe analogy is wrong in all ways. If it's in your car, it is assumed to be yours, no questions asked, unless someone else that's in the car with you fesses up.
CSVT, let us know what happens!
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziF�³sh�³: Why would you post this...decision is easy.
Hey, that reminds me, the UPS man is boinking my neighbor's pre-teen daughter. Should I tell anyone?
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Originally posted by RogerB: Originally posted by MapOfTaziF�³sh�³: Why would you post this...decision is easy.
Hey, that reminds me, the UPS man is boinking my neighbor's pre-teen daughter. Should I tell anyone?
confucious says: decision should be easy
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This just in... Wichita UPS employee arrested on charges based soley on internet hearsay, denies everything.
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Originally posted by CSVT1214: Should I notify my boss? Can reporting a customer effect business in the future? Should I just call the PD?
Never been in this situation before but child porn is not something I tolerate.
yes. yes, but you don't want those customers anyways. any customer worth having will applaud you reporting the incident. yes, after telling your boss you are doing so.
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If I were you I'd not use the child porn customer's computer to post on CEG anymore. I'd also make sure that your boss allows you to access the internet to be sure that a customer's computer is working correctly, or this surfing at work thing may come back to haunt you; for instance: "How do we know that you didn't just put all this kiddie porn on this guy's computer? After all, you were doing other things in violation of company policy..."
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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing: again.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...... 
so wrong, but so funny...
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Originally posted by 98 SE: Originally posted by Plain ole' todras: Originally posted by PDXSVT: How many people had access to the customer's computer? Did he buy it new, out of the wrapped sealed box? If there were more than one person with access, how would it be determined the correct person was being pursued?
If you gave a schoolmate of your kids a ride home, and unbeknownst to you or your kids, a residued crack pipe came out of the school kid's pocket and wedged in behind the rear passenger seat, you'd love having the cops charge you with possession.
Sometimes such calls to the cops make big media splashes. If the wrong person is pursued, how is that bell unrung?
On the other hand, if the customer HIMSELF did deliberate purchases, downloads, storage, and some prior owner, guest, prankster or cookie combo had nothing to do with it, you face less of a dilemma.
And if the weird stuff was wiped clean from his system and hard drive, what recourse could he claim against your shop?
Spoken like a true lawyer. If you bought a CPU from someone I doubt he'd just leave the files on the computer. How would you not find them yourself? I'm sure he'll get a lawyer like PDX and get off.
It's happened to me .. several times I've bought a used computer and discovered files on there (nothing horrible, but I did find bills once). Every time I nearly instantly reformatted the drive myself though.
Also, the crack pipe analogy is wrong in all ways. If it's in your car, it is assumed to be yours, no questions asked, unless someone else that's in the car with you fesses up.
CSVT, let us know what happens!
The police would take the computer away and their experts would pull up all the tracks he has left. They are extremely thorough, and will nail him to the second and site and probably obtain all sorts of passwords and stuff from it too ... they do not take this lightly in any matter.
As for the crack in a car ... well of course we'd sell it and drop the proceeds into ADC's lap for some serious hardware
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Update: I wish everyone knew my boss to understand me better but he is not your typical boss. He's Chinese, has a very very strong accent, and (not to be stereotyping) like many foreigners, he is extremely cheap. He is very set on his ways and old fashioned. Theres only 4 employees at my job including him. Me and the others get in fights with him all the time because we don't see eye to eye on things. He turns off the A/C to save utility costs, we turn it back on. We throw out a bag, he picks it up thinking we will reuse it in the future. See what I'm getting at? Anyways, I told him about the porn, and at first he didn't even understand what I was telling him. Took a little while for him to get the idea. Then he walked away from me a little frustrated. I asked him a few hours later what I should do and his response was, "Do what you feel is the right decision, I will not get involved." Right now business is unusually slow for us, so he is in his pissed off mood about money right now and any questions we ask him get him more annoyed. So I decided to handle this on my own. I completed the computer repair as usual and put the computer away. While using it, I made a image of the hard drive to another hard drive using Norton Ghost. I was going to just copy the movies off of his drive but then theres no way to tell where the files came from and he is home free. Another CSVT buddy of mine works at the local PD in the town where my job is, so I will give him a call tomorrow and let him know the deal. He helped us bust the last guy for this. I have a copy of the service order and the customers hard drive. I plan on letting the guy pick up his computer and pay the regular charges. Then handle this outside the business. That way it has no effect on the business, my boss gets his money, and everybody goes home happy. Except the customer.
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And so everyone understands that these files are not on the computer by accident, he has them in his My Documents folder. These are DivX videos that were downloaded and saved. Not just a random web address saved in the History.
He has the DivX player installed on the PC, and the Recent Files list shows those files as being accessed.
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