my son has an automatic is300 and my wifes 3.2tl can and has beaten it more than once, both off the line and up to about a 100 mph and just from a rolling stomp. his car looks way better than mine, much more style even if it does look like a tricked out civic. i would imagine that i could hang with a mtx is300 in real world conditions with my 3.2tl because most normal car owners do not abuse their mtx cars the way magazine testers do to obtain those maximum performance numbers, where as they just mat the automatic cars the same way their owners do. just wish my tl had a little more flash to go with its performance. still love the car.