Originally posted by caltour:

Look at the constitution and declaration of independence. They largely reflect not christian principles, but secular humanist ones. Democracy itself is a secular humanist creation, and it owes virtually nothing to christian dogma. Individual liberty, religious pluralism, self governance, freedom from domination by hereditary rulers, etc: these are not biblical concepts by any stretch of the imagination.




Absolutely. When the founding fathers drafted the documents upon which our nation was founded (the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and the federal Constitution), they were well aware that these documents were among the most important documents ever drafted, certainly in the history of America and possibly in the history of the modern world. Many of our founding fathers were deeply religious and were not shy about expressing their faith.

Given this context, read through these documents and see how many references there are to "Jesus", or "Jesus Christ", or "God the Father", or "Christianity", or the "Bible" or even "religion".

And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the one Christian principle which stands above all others that no one can get to heaven unless he or she accepts that Jesus Christ died for his sins? Where does the "pursuit of happines" rank among the most important tenets of Christian dogma? Is this really a Christian ideal?