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Originally posted by Swazo:
Try harder 
No need to, you already proved my point.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by Swazo:
Man is foulable, not God.
It's "fallable" not foulable.
Originally posted by Swazo:
"Do on to others..."
It's do UNTO others...
When you're traveling all around the world forming your wonderful views and opinions, it's kind of hard to fit grammar and spelling classes in.
Nothing else to fall back on davo?  You do posses a narrow minded view on the world and it is very humorous you feel the need to tell everyone 'how it is' at will and turn things into a pissing contest whenever you disagree.
Twist away at what I've said to come up with your own meanings, you do every chance you get in every thread  Since you don't travel, I guess it would seem I'm trying to be worldly or whatever. IF you ever make it across your state line again in your life time, you may start to understand it's importance.
I'll pray for ya buddy 
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by Davo:
Does one need to travel in order to form a respectable opinion? I'm not sure what traveling has to do with anything. I have left America, by the way. If it's convenient for you to dismiss my beliefs because I don't have a passport, then good for you. 
Excatly, So if I take a trip to Paris for two weeks my argument has more merrit? That's just stupid. I dont need to go to France to figure out their government does not like America.
It's obviously lost on the two of you. I never said that taking a vacation to a specific country will teach you all you need to know about that place.
I am saying that traveling amoungst other people and spending actual time outside of the norm, they will come away from that exposure with a better understanding of how the world IS, not what you've read or seen on the boob tube.
Apparently, you're content on being ecocentric like davo. That's the problem with people who never travel.
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Who said I never travel? I know I didn't. Sorry but I DO travel outside of the US and I DO have a passport. However, that doesn't mean I have a better understanding of how the world "is".
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You're right, I guess it would fall upon where you go and what you do with your time there. You'd be the first person I've encountered that doesn't learn ANYTHING from their travels, how sad.
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Originally posted by Swazo:
You're right, I guess it would fall upon where you go and what you do with your time there. You'd be the first person I've encountered that doesn't learn ANYTHING from their travels, how sad.
didn't say I didn't learn anything, i just dont think it merrits my view of the world being more enlightened than Davo's.
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Originally posted by Swazo:
Nothing else to fall back on davo? You do posses a narrow minded view on the world and it is very humorous you feel the need to tell everyone 'how it is' at will and turn things into a pissing contest whenever you disagree.
When you consider one's demographics as disqualification of their views and opinions, the argument ends. I did my best to illustrate how stupid it is dismiss someone that way, and I believe I succeeded. So in other words, the debate ended when you made the ridiculous comment about my demographics and my lack of travel. A pissing contest ensued because there was nothing else to do.
Originally posted by Swazo:
Twist away at what I've said to come up with your own meanings, you do every chance you get in every thread Since you don't travel, I guess it would seem I'm trying to be worldly or whatever. IF you ever make it across your state line again in your life time, you may start to understand it's importance.
Who has nothing to fall back on? If my location and my within-U.S. border travel preferences serves as a disqualification of my opinion in your view, then I'd suggest your view is quite self-righteous.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me why one must travel in order to 'understand the world better'. If you think one must leave American borders in order to form valid opinions and possess respected views, then you are seriously underestimating the power of all kinds of media and references.
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Originally posted by Swazo:
Apparently, you're content on being ecocentric like davo. That's the problem with people who never travel.
Not that I'm ecocentric, but I'd rather be ecocentric than self-righteous because I travel. You need to get over yourself.
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Back on topic...
Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Swazo:
When peoples religous views are SO important to THEM that they have to force it apon others, that's just like what Osama Bin Laden is doing.
You must be reading from the Dick Durbin Book of Analogies. You either have a distorted view of what 'Bible Thumpers' are and what their goals are, or you have a very distorted view of what Bin Laden is doing. I'm not quite sure what you would consider 'forcing views upon', but I can assure you it is nothing like what Bin Laden and Islamic terrorists are doing. They are killing people who do not practice Islam. I wonder what your world is like if you equate someone ringing your doorbell with a couple religious words with killing you if you don't practice their faith.
The only distortion is your twisting of what I said, so you could go off on a rant. While you've been doing so, I've responded to everyone else to stay on topic.
Yes there are radical Christians who take it upon themselves to FORCE their views onto everyone else one way or another. The abortion clinic attacks are apt for this example.
That is exactly like OBL, he kills because people don't share his views, and he'll MAKE you or die trying.
You imply that OBL is the head of the Islamic faith, and since you're so "worldly", I can see why you think that. OBL doesn't kill people simply because they don't practice Islam as you said. He kills them because he hates the West and found a loop hole in the Koran to oust any non-Muslims from the holy peninsula of Saudi Arabia.
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Just because one is able to interpret a holy book to do evil, doesn't in turn make that religion evil. The bible has been used in perverted ways as well by extremists, so you can't just blame Islam. Look at the Aryan Nation, that's a "christian church". But, it doesn't encompass all of Jesus' followers.... does it?
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Swazo:
Apparently, you're content on being ecocentric like davo. That's the problem with people who never travel.
Not that I'm ecocentric, but I'd rather be ecocentric than self-righteous because I travel. You need to get over yourself.
You are taking it the wrong way, purposely it seems. I have stated numerous times already why I think traveling is important. You disagree and want to be ecocentric, fine. I'm sure Lincoln is all you ever need to see to base your opinions off of.
I'm from Utah for Pete's sake, so I'm not trying to come off worldly.
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