Originally posted by Corbett:
However, this country WAS founded on Biblical principles


People say this all the time without even thinking about it. What principles in the Declaration of Independence or Constitution are from the Bible?
Freedom? No. The bible teaches obedience to God and governments.
1 Peter 2:13: "For the Lord's sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right."

Paul wrote in Romans 13:1: "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resist authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment."

And this passage from Acts sounds a lot like socialism to me. Could it be where Marx got his ideas?
4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Originally posted by Corbett:
Without the church there wouldn't be any reason to stand up against abortion or gay marriage.


Yeah, John Lennon wrote a song about that. We can only dream.

Dueling Duratecs '95 SE V6 MTX 0 Mods '04 Mazda6 S Wagon '03 Kawasaki Z1000 But thus do I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful! Friedrich Nietzsche