can anyone else back that up? I suppose that's good news then cause what I was hearing sounded more like a chain. I guess if I don't have one, I can look somewhere else. I like the loose catalyst theory. I did have an engine light about a year ago that read a bad bank one cat. never did anything about it tho, passed smog test and everything. Hopefully this is the problem and it's an easy fix. well, relatively easy.