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the srt4 only runs 8-9 psi. the stock motor can only push 18psi...
my friend set his to 20 and blew it.
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I guess there's some kind of trend here? Everybody's "friend" owns SRT4s. Oh LOOK! There's a Ferrari in my driveway too!!  -SAV
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Originally posted by Justacontour:
the srt4 only runs 8-9 psi. the stock motor can only push 18psi...
my friend set his to 20 and blew it.
You are wrong, your are wrong, and your friend is a moron then.
Stock boost level is 14psi. It does see spikes to 15-16psi. Boost is limited in 1st gear to 9psi. So if you would have said "in 1st gear" you would have been right. 
The engine can handle more the 18psi even with a stock turbo. However the stock turbos stalls at ~19psi so it's not worth running higher boost with the stock turbo because you are getting nothing more then hot air and a very low rpm torque hump. (i.e. great for bench racing dyno numbers but worthless for any real world performance)
Also you DO NOT rate engine parts by psi level. That's silly because that's forgetting about numerous other variables like CFM FLOW & COMPRESSOR SIZE for instance.
The reason your friend "blew it" is because he didn't do any research and realize the stock programming is not able to handle signifianctly higher boost and leans out the engine. (as well as retards timing btw) He basically destroyed his engine because he wasn't being smart and didn't do some home work first. Probably was cheap and ran 87 octane as well. 
Heck I don't even own one or "have a friend that owns an SRT-4"  and know all this. More even. 
Great little pocket rocket. Tough as nails powertrain. (stock setup can do ~280/320 @ 19psi with proper A/F & bolt ons  ) Good handling. Nothing at all wrong with that even if it's a Neon. 
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talk to pinebox in the southwest forum...he has one...then we can get rid of all this "my friend" crap. I believe he is running near 20psi.
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Warmonger, I have never seen a srt4 break into the 13s stock either. I do believe it to be possible. I have also heard 12.9 stock on slicks. Friend ran 14.1 or 14.2 (can't remember) stock with his, so surely somebody that drives better than a 19 yr old can get it into the 13s.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I have also heard 12.9 stock on slicks.
General rule of thumb: Every tenth you take off of your 60' time equates to 2 tenths off your 1/4 mile time. So by that theory, you'd be cutting ~1.4 60' times with slicks! 
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
so surely somebody that drives better than a 19 yr
Coming from a 19 year old.
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I have also heard 12.9 stock on slicks.
General rule of thumb: Every tenth you take off of your 60' time equates to 2 tenths off your 1/4 mile time. So by that theory, you'd be cutting ~1.4 60' times with slicks!
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
so surely somebody that drives better than a 19 yr
Coming from a 19 year old.
Mark
I said I HEARD, not my theory.
And ummm yeah. That's my point. I didn't say I was a better driver. In fact, I'd probably pull a 15 sec run if I drove.
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Originally posted by stilov:
just to poke fun a bit...03 and 04 were the only supercharged cobras...but my old boss had one...he had a catback K&N and short shifter and ran 13.4 stock tires. That is at 4400 elevation and 100 degrees.
The same day I ran my WS6 410 to the wheels at 13.2 @108.5
Although I don't claim to be the best driver...I had only run it that day...so I imagine with practice and little cooler weather I could have been high 12's.
Oh, you're right there are no cobras this past year.
I'm still loosing a year after being gone in Iraq from '04-'05.
Everything that was new when I left is old now, but I keep on thinking it was just released, i.e. last fall would make it an 05 when it was most likely an 04. Either way, it was the one with a nice whoosh sound, actually very tame sounding intake.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
That's closer to believable then. You both are right I missed the letter z in that sentence. oops... 
A C5 would still beat his Z though if the race was more then an 1/8th mile; regardless of launch. From his numbers his Z is about as quick as my car out of the whole and I've raced a few C5's at the track. (including being just beat by one on my 13.4 run)
Thanks guys, I was talking about the z. Pay attention to the tense of the sentence demon. You are right, me beating a C5 in the probe is about as believable as you beating one in your contour. Does everyone believe the crap you shovel, because you have been shovelling enough to build a crap hut to park your C5 eater in.
Closer to believable? You consistantly trash everyone elses statements, jumping on them as quick as you talk. I don't know why, sounds like you have a complex. Maybe you raced a honda minivan last week and lost. Closer to believable....? A C5 would still beat my z? Give me a break man. I just stated in my post that I've ran a few and beat them. I've beaten a friend's 4 or 5 times, and I had a horizontally challenged passenger. Streetlight stop, freeway drag...doesn't matter.
The z is about as quick as your car? Gee thanks. If it isn't you must be running at turbo or at least a 100 shot of nitrous. My 0-60 times of 4.6-5.5 are based on a g-tech reading with rather worn and soft yokohamas, no drag racing radials, usually lots of wheelspin, sometimes right into 3rd gear, and a 3 year old clutch that likes to slip once and awhile. (the old zs are very light in the rear). The faster times coming with the least wheelspin. I can hardly get out of first without putting the car sideways under full throttle. And seeing as how you race once and awhile you would know the difference between 4.6 s and 5.5 s (your time) can be a few car lenghts.
Guy, you need to read up a little on 3.1 L stroker z motors....
The 2.4L race prepped datsun motors were putting out 250hp, and that is with strict race engine specs and two carbs. A 3.l L with tripple 50 webbers (biggest you can get) like mine, race cam, electronic timing and strait exhaust is pushing at least 300hp....some are close to 400 with no turbos. And that is conservative. When I had mine dynoed it was with the dual SU carbs a milder autocross cam. 285 hp at the wheels in a 2700 lb car. It is at least 20-30 hp over that now based on the changes to the motor since then, at least.
funny thing, arguing with you or anyone was the last thing on my mind when the post started...its snapper heads like you that really turn people off these boards.
Ok, now is where you disect my post to bits because you have nothing better to do...
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