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Originally posted by carzyjay:
what about a 3.0L vs the saturn and srt-4?
A typical 3L swap will beat a redline/SS more then half the time.
It will lose to an SRT-4.
A good 3L SVT swap will beat a redline/SS and run even with an SRT-4 or modified redline/SS.
A modified SRT-4 will beat a good 3L SVT swap most of the time. From a roll it's a fair fight.
The couple times I've made it to the track I have yet to lose to an SRT-4. The quickest one I saw (an 04) had I/E, VBC, Stage 1+ and ran 13.99 @ 99 (our track sucks)
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ha yea man. so who would win, smarty pants? 
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
what about an LS 3.0L in the CSVT with a vortec s/c and some giggle gas to get it going off the line with an LSD, beefed up stage VI axles, slicks and skinny's out back, with a Quiafe gearset, aerodynomic taping up front, and John force driving? 
Heck no! This is a Saturn we're talking about! 
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
A good 3L SVT swap will beat a redline/SS and run even with an SRT-4 or modified redline/SS.
No way!!! A 3L will not hang with an SRT-4. They run 13.8 in the 1/4 all stock, and it will hit 60 before your out of 2nd gear. Maybe a modded 3L would have a slight chance
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I hung with a srt4 with the stage 1 with a hybrid set-up with my tour and he is a good driver. ".drove" side by side twice. he will vouch for that too. other friend that was in the car with me would say the same. A stock svt is another story. wooped a 92 v8 camero that night also.
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yes i have heard of 13.8. i have seen one at fontana with a tire. But all i have seen from the others is 14.6 @ 94. thats all.14.3 maybe, sad.
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Originally posted by carzyjay:
what about a 3.0L vs the saturn and srt-4?
This post takes back to when I first became a member of the CEG, but back then, it was how about the CSVT vs. the GTP/Regal GS. Back then, it went like this "well, the GTP has a blower and thats not fair!", give me a break, IT IS WHAT IT IS guys! Its a sign of the times, think about it. The CSVT came out in 2000, 5 long years ago and the market has been going up since then. The only thing we can hope for is that our future cousin, the Fusion, gets the MazdaSpeed 6 drivetrain like its supposed to and that will be the midsize car the CSVT could've been. I see myself in that car in about 2 1/2 years and even though it doesn't share any DNA with the Contour, its a family member none the less  As far as losing to these cars, well, just take your medicine, sorry to say it like that, but I'm thinking some of you are in need of a klenex here 
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Originally posted by SVT25:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
A good 3L SVT swap will beat a redline/SS and run even with an SRT-4 or modified redline/SS.
No way!!! A 3L will not hang with an SRT-4. They run 13.8 in the 1/4 all stock, and it will hit 60 before your out of 2nd gear. Maybe a modded 3L would have a slight chance
Hmmm. "GOOD SVT 3L SWAP" That would entail some bolt-ons and tuning. 
Also SRT-4's times range all over the map. I've never seen one run 13's out of the box personally. Most of the legitimate times I've seen posted or in person for them are 13.9-14.6 @ 97-99mph in stock form. It's very rare to see them in the 13's if it's not a very fast track. To compare cars they'd have to run at the same track.
I even told you what the modified SRT-4's run at our local track. Nothing too special. I have yet to see any modified ones break 100mph.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by SVT25:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
A good 3L SVT swap will beat a redline/SS and run even with an SRT-4 or modified redline/SS.
No way!!! A 3L will not hang with an SRT-4. They run 13.8 in the 1/4 all stock, and it will hit 60 before your out of 2nd gear. Maybe a modded 3L would have a slight chance
Hmmm. "GOOD SVT 3L SWAP" That would entail some bolt-ons and tuning.
Also SRT-4's times range all over the map. I've never seen one run 13's out of the box personally. Most of the legitimate times I've seen posted or in person for them are 13.9-14.6 @ 97-99mph in stock form. It's very rare to see them in the 13's if it's not a very fast track. To compare cars they'd have to run at the same track.
I even told you what the modified SRT-4's run at our local track. Nothing too special. I have yet to see any modified ones break 100mph.
he started at my back bumper and we finished with my front bumper at his back bumper.
we did a roll from 35-100. so i lost by a car lenth prolly but he pulled that on me around 90mph
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I even told you what the modified SRT-4's run at our local track. Nothing too special. I have yet to see any modified ones break 100mph.
Friend's ran 13.4 with just boost controller, intake, and motor mounts on 215 wide neo gens. I don't recall his trap, but definitely over 100mph. Reckon those are just bad drivers in your neighborhood.
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