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Originally posted by SAV: Originally posted by Jeb Hoge: Option out a Mazda 3s. I think you can come in around $20K with nav & all the option packages.
Ok. Sigma, Zoom Zoom...all you Mazda guys, gather 'round. I have a story to tell:
I did it, just yesterday actually. I've been perusing the small compact car market lately, and have test drove just about everything in the segment. That includes the Kia Spectra SX, Toyota Corolla, Suzuki Reno and Forenza, Honda Civic, Scion tC, Ford Focus ST, and Dodge Neon. Of that list, I would have settled for the Spectra SX or the Corolla. All the ones I drove were 5 speeds and fairly well optioned. The Suzukis weren't very fast and I couldn't do with having manual wind up windows in the rear of the Neon. The shift action in the Focus was notchy going into third and fifth and I wasn't too sure about the tall boy styling of it either. The '05 looks like a softened version of the '04 Focus and I liked that one better. My friend picked up a tC about a month ago and has only about 90 miles on it. He hasn't even been through his first tank of gas because he's so anal about it being clean. But of course, I can't have a car that my best friend already has.
I hadn't been to the Chevy dealer for a Cobalt yet, because I wasn't too thrilled with service last time I went there. Besides, there were no 5 speeds on the lot, 2 or 4 door.
So I made a stop at Mazda yesterday with a friend to check out the 3s they had on the lot. They had a very nicely optioned white 3 s with a 5 speed and the 17s. No navi or HIDs, but that falls under the nice to have but don't really need it list. It had a moonroof and power windows/locks/mirrors and that's all I really care for as far as options.
The sales guy there was awesome. All he did was scan my license and the three of us took off and the first words out of his mouth were, "if you drive this car like you hate it, you'll love it, but if you just tool around, you won't see the true capabilities." Hm, sounds like some people on CEG, eh? 
So I did that. I asked him how far we could go and he said as far as the gas tank will take you. I was ecstatic. So far the only thing bothering me was the sound system. I wasn't impressed by it. A subwoofer would cure that right up, and the buttons were on the steering wheel too.
This car flat out hauled ass. I took an on ramp at full throttle and banged through the first four gears and I was doing 90 mph before I even knew it. 
It handled like it was on rails. I thought it was incredible. I wasn't nearly as impressed with the 6 as I was with the way the 3 took curves. I thought the Spectra was the best handling (besides some nasty bump vibration in the steering wheel) of the pack that I drove earlier, but there was no contest. It did everything and it did it well.
Bottom line, is that this is a freakin' awesome car.
-SAV
My brother bought a mazda 3s last year and I must say I was pretty impressed. It handled well, had decent acceleration, and the fit and finish was well above my CSVT. It's a surprising car for the money.
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Mazda 3s are the best in their class and you can get a "s" with a roof and a 5 speed for around $17400 thats "s-plan" (like fords x-plan) its only about $50 cheaper than invoice but if you haggle good enough the dealer will find a way to sell it at s-plan.
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guys try not to compare fit and finish and that sort to our 5 plus year old cars. technology has come a long way. if thy were still making CSVTs imsure the quality would be right up there with the best in classes.  id still rather drive my SVT than a Mazda
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thanks for that Sav.
I looked at the cobalt SS, ion redline, mazda 3, and the spectra. I think the spectra is lacking in the power area. only 138.
id have to push to about 20k for any of those others, with the mazda being about 18k. I am not a real big fan of the design of the saturn. But they are good cars. And given the fact that import cars are keeping a higher resell value than domestic the Mazda is looking like its on the leader board.
Like I said this is all speculation and things may change over the next few months but thanks for the input guys.
I still like the idea of getting a newer cheaper car and then modding the tour.
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Originally posted by chbix: And given the fact that import cars are keeping a higher resell value than domestic the Mazda is looking like its on the leader board.
Like I said this is all speculation and things may change over the next few months but thanks for the input guys.
I still like the idea of getting a newer cheaper car and then modding the tour.
Since when is Mazda an import?
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Originally posted by CeeBee94Z: Originally posted by chbix: And given the fact that import cars are keeping a higher resell value than domestic the Mazda is looking like its on the leader board.
Like I said this is all speculation and things may change over the next few months but thanks for the input guys.
I still like the idea of getting a newer cheaper car and then modding the tour.
Since when is Mazda an import?
Most of the Mazdas aren't foreign anymore(?)(correct me if I'm wrong), they used to be before Ford bought them out. Then they got better.
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Get an higher mileage s2000 and put the kids in the trunk, that's what I'd do.
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Originally posted by racerbox77: guys try not to compare fit and finish and that sort to our 5 plus year old cars. technology has come a long way. if thy were still making CSVTs imsure the quality would be right up there with the best in classes.
id still rather drive my SVT than a Mazda[/quote
So your saying that five years ago there were no cars with a good fit & finish in the 20k price range. I hope your joking.
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Originally posted by mystique97: Originally posted by CeeBee94Z: Originally posted by chbix: And given the fact that import cars are keeping a higher resell value than domestic the Mazda is looking like its on the leader board.
Like I said this is all speculation and things may change over the next few months but thanks for the input guys.
I still like the idea of getting a newer cheaper car and then modding the tour.
Since when is Mazda an import?
Most of the Mazdas aren't foreign anymore(?)(correct me if I'm wrong), they used to be before Ford bought them out. Then they got better.
Yes that was my point. Ford has owned Mazda for a decent amount of time.
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Originally posted by CeeBee94Z: Originally posted by mystique97: Originally posted by CeeBee94Z: Originally posted by chbix: And given the fact that import cars are keeping a higher resell value than domestic the Mazda is looking like its on the leader board.
Like I said this is all speculation and things may change over the next few months but thanks for the input guys.
I still like the idea of getting a newer cheaper car and then modding the tour.
Since when is Mazda an import?
Most of the Mazdas aren't foreign anymore(?)(correct me if I'm wrong), they used to be before Ford bought them out. Then they got better.
Yes that was my point. Ford has owned Mazda for a decent amount of time.
IIRC, Ford owns a minority stake in mazda. Something like 25%-35%. Much of the hand waving is still from Japan, especially the design and engineering.
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