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Originally posted by dnewma04:

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Where do you plan on putting the tweeters?

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Its a tossup right now between the a-piller or the triangle in the front door. I would put it low near the factory location, but I have people in my car a lot of the time and i hate only being able to hear one tweeter since the other one is playing directly into the passangers leg. I actually am up for installing where-ever would give the best quality, that isn't so low it plays into my passanger

Originally posted by dnewma04:

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http://melonheadaudio.com/PARTNUMBER.htm

there is your part list.

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Wow, thats really helpful!

I may end up doing this tonight

Originally posted by Digital Slacker:

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Originally posted by dnewma04:

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http://melonheadaudio.com/PARTNUMBER.htm

there is your part list.

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Wow, thats really helpful!

I may end up doing this tonight

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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:

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you owe newman a beer, or a good cigar for that one!!

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Next time he is out the PA/Jersey way that will work

Originally posted by Stazi:

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Originally posted by guitarman19853:

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can you show me a picture of what you mean when you say to put the plastic bezel piece behind the speaker? i want to get speakers this week but i need to see how the 6x9's would fit... otherwise its just going to be 6x8's

oh and i am planning on getting pioneers

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I don't have pictures of it - but open your imagination with me here:

So you know when you buy a set of 6x9's they come witha plastic bezel and a mesh oval that clicks into that bezel, right? And typically you screw in a 6x9 with the bezel on top of it and then when you're done you click in the mesh to protect the speaker, right? OK, NOW, instead of screwing in the speaker with the bezel on TOP of the speaker, just put it underneath, with the bezel still facing outwards, and screw both of them in. The bezel then acts as a small spacer to move the speaker away from the door, understand?

If you don't get what I'm saying...well, there's no hope for you!

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okay i got the speakers and i am not sure i see what you meant... the speaker did come with a template for makign a spacer... is this (white arrow) what you were talking about? It doesnt seem to want to come off...



this is the only other thing that came with it:

Originally posted by futureownerSVT:

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OK I'll take the bait from the peanut gallery...

"a fountain of mis-information" is comical... lets look at why an oval speaker cannot move in a truely linear fashion:

the voice coil on all tradional dynamic(cone) speakers is round. in a mid-range/high frequency application, the actual xmax (movement one way forward or back) is very small (high frequnecy "hZ").. so the actual time inside the magnetic gap where the electrical transfer occurs is very short & very fast. Any miss-alignment or off kilter situation will dramatically affect/effect both electrical transfer...Compared to a Subwoofer where the time in the gap is longer (lower frequency "hZ")

the oval cone & surround (so wonderfully called a "rubber ring by the experts here) cannot move in a linear fashion. the outer edges (at the pointsof the oval) will peakthe surround well befor the sides closested the center of the driver/cone which travel more closely to the round voice coil...

oh hell who cares... My Engineering degree, MECP certification, & 20+ years in the business are worthless...

Enjoy your land based Satelite radios & your 6x9's.. oh & the fart cans rock too...

Rob W

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i find it interesting that your initial post stated that it was actually low frequency repsonse that necessitated a round driver for best accuracy, yet in this post, you now change that stance to mid/high freq. apps as being that case. i'd be interested if you could explain to us how, given the same amount of surround material around the entire cone surface, an oval design, as those used in a 6x9 application, will run out of excursion at the "corners" before any other areas. even if this was the case, it would do so at all corners, and as such, would retain VC alignment. thus it would only limit spl output, which would be nominal at best.

the only possible argument that i can see as being plausibly for this "round is better" argument is that the actual response time from voice coil excitement to cone movement at the futher points on the cone may be slower than those at the closer points. but in this small of an application (the difference being what, 1 1/2"?) and a reasonably rigid cone (as most current quality drivers enjoy), this difference is not only negligible, it's completely inaudible.

i'm not sure how land based satellite repeaters factor into this concept, nor tuner-style exhausts for that matter. i'd dare say your attempts at ad-hominem/circumstantial attacks may be malicious. if you are, in fact, leaving us here in the audio section of ceg (as your other post in the satellite thread implied) then i wish you luck in your endeavors. and if you intend to purport nonsense about non-round shaped speakers, you may want to know that there is a national champion sq vehicle that uses non-round drivers in it (hint... he's a member here at ceg, and i remember it was either granger or eldridge who was using boston acoustics 5x7 components in his escape as well) for whatever that's worth....

good day.