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#1330559 07/10/05 01:57 AM
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Hey guys whats up, hope you're enjoying your weekend, i'm not particulary enjoying mine.

I think I've been screwed and miniorly taken for a ride. In short, I believe the [censored] previous owner forgot to mention that the tach had been switched, so that the odometer is in miles, rather then kms!!!!!!

Recently i've been ranting about how bad my gas milage is on CEG. Well, during my road trip to visit my brother out here in Calgary, I became very confused when on a tank of gas from Sicamous, BC to Calgary BC, is was only 301kms (but really miles i guess)!!!!??? Which when checked on mapquest is exactly right (give or take a mile) Right there on the way, I was like WTF. The tac is in KMS, and the rev line is correct as well, which is why I didn't notice in town.

Here is my VIN, could someone please do a carfax/check and post/pm me the results.


Flame me if you want, but help asap is appreciatted.

thanks.
Needslees to say I will be stoping back in to the owner after Calgary.

Sorry: Edit:

here is my vin

1falp68g8wk146257

or (sorry i'm an idiot and cant read...the "1's" are actually "i's")

ifalp68g8wki46257


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To my recollection the SVT gauges were only made in MPH.

The SVT's sold in Canada are basically "imported" US models. "SVT" IS NOT a trim level but a completely different build hence the unique VIN number.


BTW - There is NO "I" in the VIN code. They are 1's.


Another BTW - WTF is KMS???

How is the tach in KMS???

The tachometer measures the revolutions of the crankshaft. Hence the term RPM or Rotations Per Minute. There is no such thing as a metric translation for counting.


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FWIW, 301 miles is decent for a tank of gas. Oh, and the vin is usually in all capital letters and begins with a 1.


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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
To my recollection the SVT gauges were only made in MPH.









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Greg the SVTs that go outside the US (Canada, Europe) do get the KMH speedos :-)


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I almost want to laugh,because it's such a stupid thing to have happened,but the difference between miles and kilometers adds up pretty quickly. Does your speedometer read in Kmh as the main unit,like all Canadian cars,or is mph the main display?

Guess it's time to brush up on your math and start filling up with gallons instead of litres,lol.


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lmao, i hardly count that as being "screwed" and I think hes was talkin about the odometer not the tach, but i could be wrong. Only thing id be worried about is if the odometer was rolled back or switched from the original.


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Originally posted by SleeperTour:
I almost want to laugh,because it's such a stupid thing to have happened,but the difference between miles and kilometers adds up pretty quickly. Does your speedometer read in Kmh as the main unit,like all Canadian cars,or is mph the main display?

Guess it's time to brush up on your math and start filling up with gallons instead of litres,lol.




Yes speedometer is KMH, the rev lines all add up as well. The trip meter is in miles, and it flips 1 mile the same as the odometer, which is why I am pissed and would ike a carfax. I plan on taking the previous owner to small claims.


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Ok, the car is definetely rolling in MILES. I just finished my road trip back from Calgary. The trip meter was 390 from Calgary to Kelowna, and, when you punch it in Map quest, is almost exactly that for MILES. KM from Calgary to Kelowna SHOULD be 598km give or take. Everything equalled out to miles. The guages are in Kilometers! WTF....

And the car looks to be manufactured in Canada? But on the inside of the driver door it lists US.

Here is the guage picture and the original listing.


Look at the gas milage I am getting...It should be 1.6x that for km. The trip meter rolls every MILE, I distanced it out.

Listed as KM.




Here is the CarFax (thank you SlimShady):




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Re: Carfax?
From: Slimshady
Good News -- Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee!
No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1998 FORD CONTOUR SVT (1FALP68G8WK146257). If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.

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Blue Arrow This sedan has had 1 owner in British Columbia. The first title for this sedan was reported to CARFAX by a British Columbia DMV in 1997.
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Number of Owners 1 Estimated Owner(s)
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DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 13 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED


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Year/Make/Model: 1998 FORD CONTOUR SVT

Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
Engine: 2.5L V6 SMPI DOHC 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: UNITED STATES
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer


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Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
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Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
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No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Frame Damage Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported No Collision Repair Facility Record Reported

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Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
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CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1998 FORD CONTOUR SVT (1FALP68G8WK146257).


Date: Mileage:
06/29/1999 20,479
09/10/1999 20,860
11/08/1999 25,476




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Ownership History:

CARFAX estimates that this 1998 FORD CONTOUR SVT (1FALP68G8WK146257) had 1 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 11/07/1997 British Columbia

Types of Owners:

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No Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported



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CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources and found 13 record(s) for this 1998 FORD CONTOUR SVT (1FALP68G8WK146257).

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:
06/06/1997 NICB
Vehicle manufactured and shipped to original
dealer
11/07/1997 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Surrey, BC
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as lease vehicle
11/07/1997 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Surrey, BC
Registration issued or renewed
11/07/1997 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Surrey, BC
Registration issued or renewed
First owner reported
11/07/1998 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Surrey, BC
Registration issued or renewed
06/29/1999 20,479 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
09/10/1999 20,860 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
11/08/1999 25,476 Vehicle Inspection Station
British Columbia
Passed emissions inspection
with 41000 kilometers
01/20/2000 Vehicle Inspection Station
British Columbia
Passed emissions inspection
with 41000 kilometers
01/22/2000 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Squamish, BC
Registration issued or renewed
01/22/2001 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Halfmoon Bay, BC
Registration issued or renewed
01/23/2002 British Columbia
Ministry of Transportation
Registration issued or renewed
01/23/2003 British Columbia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registration issued or renewed



Am I on the right track here? Does my contour have over 200,000kms on it? I really think i've been taken for a ride here. I still have the owners phone number, address, and I've been to his and his wife's house 2 times.

I have an appointment with Ford at the end of the week as well.

I'm soooo upset. I'm so crushed, seriously. help.



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I'm thinking of 3 things that could have happend:

1. The factory mixed up and put the wrong odometer in.

2. The original odometer failed and whoever fixed it just replaced the odometer and accidentally got the wrong one.

3. The original odometer may or may not have failed and the Metric one was intentionally changed to the US one to make it seem like it had less Km than it really does; makes it fraud in this case.


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