Originally posted by Ray:
True, but remember that "little to no notice" and "15hp" are apples and oranges. one is an observation, the other a number.

Go with the numbers..

Just because someone doesn't NOTICE, doesn't mean it isn't doing it.



Yeah, I'll go with the numbers when it's dyno-quantified. It seems to me like they're veering into histrionics right now...they sound as valid as the performance increases that are "suggested" by speed-part makers.

"Think of it, if you like, as a librarian with a G-string under the tweed." Clarkson on the Mondeo.