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Originally posted by steventrace:
As we know from Americaâ??s arrival into the second world war, their concept of â??on timeâ? differs slightly from ours.
And anyway...
That was rather arrogant in itself.  As we know from America's arrival into the second world war, our Grandfathers spanked the Nazi Germans to the other side of Berlin. To relate to the article itself though... 
My comment is just as unneccessary as his, I know. Point proven. Moving forward though, I like having a 3 year model design "cushion" when thinking about the Contour's replacement 
The Contour's replacement....
I'll be crying like the guy in the article! 
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Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
Can't really blame Ford for a crappy dealer.
You can't? Why not? Ford Motor Company is the one that selects and trains their â??factory authorizedâ? dealers and if a dealership doesnâ??t meet Fordâ??s â??qualityâ? standards, Ford can fire them. How many bad Ford and Lincoln Mercury dealers have you had service your car(s) over the years? Personally Iâ??ve lost count. Have you ever seen a bad Ford dealer get fired? I havenâ??t.
Just as an example we have (4) Ford Dealers and (2) Lincoln Mercury dealers in the Las Vegas area; I have had my cars serviced at (3) of the Ford dealers and (1) of the Lincoln Mercury dealers. Not one of them could do a repair correctly the first time, in fact it took them, on average, (3) tries to get a repair done right. The one exception being when I had a local Lincoln Mercury dealer replace the antenna mast on my 1998.5 Contour SE. Sure enough they fixed the antenna correctly the first time, but the next time (a week later!) I took the car in to have them re-do a faulty repair (fix a malfunctioning lower intake manifold for the 3rd time) they bent the antenna mast and I had to bring it back (the next week!) to have them replace it again!
Iâ??ve called Fordâ??s customer service number to complain and Iâ??ve even called Fordâ??s regional service Rep, but unless you consider a pleasant â??weâ??re very sorry sirâ? as fixing the problem, nothing has changed. Sure they always listen to me carefully and ask many questions, but no local dealer has been fired and their service hasnâ??t gotten any better, in fact itâ??s gotten worse! From my experience I can only assume that our local Ford and Lincoln Mercury dealers, along with the rest of the rotten Ford and Lincoln Mercury dealers Iâ??ve dealt with around the world, meet Fordâ??s â??highâ? standards for â??Quality Care Serviceâ?.
The Original Owner of 1998 SVT Contour #3384 of 6535,
Toreador Red/Midnight Blue, Assembled September 3rd, 1997
Also the Original Owner of a 1998.5 Contour SE Sport V6 5-speed,
Vibrant White/Greystone Sport Cloth, Assembled August 6th, 1998
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It's not just Ford, I found BS service from Chevy also. I bought an 88 Beretta GT in what else but 88 and then for the next month and a half every Sat. it was in sevice for them to find a low speed miss. They tested this and that, put it on thier test equipment with an up link to GM in Detroit all to no avail. I told the service boss that it felt like a vaccume leak but was told that thier equipment would tell them if that were the case. Finally I spent a Saturday in the drive tracing out the vaccume system and guess what found a bad line going to the reserve can under the battery.(fixed it with an old line off my Fairmont) and the car ran great. Took the line back to the service boss, tossed it on his desk and said there is the vaccume leak your GM certified techs said did not exist. He just shrugged his shoulders and gave me that always customer friendly FU look. 
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Originally posted by MaddMike:
Took the line back to the service boss, tossed it on his desk and said there is the vaccume leak your GM certified techs said did not exist. He just shrugged his shoulders and gave me that always customer friendly FU look.
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I'm not surprised. US companies simply can't make good quality cars any more. If $150,000 gets you that, I'll stick with foreign brands.
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Originally posted by baco99:
I'm not surprised. US companies simply can't make good quality cars any more. If $150,000 gets you that, I'll stick with foreign brands.
You get the same quality with Ferrari or Lamborghini.
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"You are a plain and simple moron!
If you're brain were a phone system it'd be the equivalent of getting the corner Little Caeser's Pizza whenevr you dialkled 911. I swear you are the weirdest person on this forum.
Sorry but every post from you just makes me more and more frustrated. "
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Originally posted by baco99:
I'm not surprised. US companies simply can't make good quality cars any more. If $150,000 gets you that, I'll stick with foreign brands.
You get the same quality with Ferrari or Lamborghini.
This doesn't happen very often, but I agree.
if anyone remembers This post I made awhile back about exotic car recalls you can clearly see that.
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Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
Good to know the details of his rant. Can't really blame Ford for a crappy dealer. Why would he want all this stuff in his GT any way. 
Some of it is REQUIRED by British regulations. IIRC, cars over there have to have immobilizers, alarms, and he also said that they had to fit a quieter exhaust and some other bits that he was going to have to retrofit back to the American spec. It's sort of like how if you imported a Mondeo to the US, it'd have to undergo probably thousands of dollars of mods just to be street-legal here.
My guess is that Clarkson got stars in his eyes when he drove the GT during his tests, where the car is set up to shine, and the reality of ownership wasn't going to rear its head until he'd had to live with the car, warts and all, for a while.
By the way, I've found Clarkson's newspaper gig archive. I love how he writes.
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,12529,00.html
Last edited by Jeb Hoge; 07/08/05 01:40 PM.
"Think of it, if you like, as a librarian with a G-string under the tweed." Clarkson on the Mondeo.
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Todras, probably me flaming some newbie a little to harshly, and a few newbie posts like "my friend sez i can egt a vtec chip off ebay for my zetec but doesnt zetec mean i have vtec already they sound the same"