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Originally posted by SVTfrog:
Are you kidding me? 
I'm called lazy and told I'm not doing something right, yet it works just fine for me and others.
I even said:
"I'm not saying using pipe cleaners is a bad idea, just that it's not needed"
Now you're telling me that I can't admit being wrong about something and that I'm kicking an idea out.
I don't know how to put this for you to understand. I'm sure you'll stay pissy about it no matter how I phrase it.
Spray cleaner works for MOST people. Pipe cleaners can be used but 99% of the time aren't needed.
There are often different ways to the same solution. Just because you do it differently, doesn't mean the other way, which happens to be just a bit simpler (which really makes me wonder where the lazy comments came from, since it takes only a minute more to use a pipe cleaner) is wrong.
For those interested, CRC now sells a spray specifically called MAF cleaner.
Or you can take apart the MAF and take a bubble bath with it, I heard that's the only non-lazy, right way to do it. 
Blahh blahh blahh yadda yadda yadda..my big brown boot up you A$$
This thread was meant to show an alternate and perhaps better way to clean a MAF sensor. It wasn't meant to be a political discussion on the fine points of using a fuzzy pipe cleaner. I know this can be troubling to some ppl but you really need to understand the concepts behind this "how to". It's nothing personal and nothing that can really hurt your ego, it's just good info to digest and learn from. 
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Originally posted by sk8token:
Frog, it's clear that you are just not understanding what I've written here, or you wouldn't be getting upset. Relax, slow down, and re-read this thread several more times and you should be on the same page as everyone else.
I'm sorry I had to correct you in front of everyone. I know it embarrased you (can tell by your posts following mine). It's nothing personal, it's only for the benefit of others out there with the same MAF problem.
I'm only upset about being called lazy,etc. for no good reason.
You are also clearly upset, and obviously have not taken time to comprehend anything I've posted or you would not be posting what you have.
You have not corrected me on anything. And the only thing I've corrected you and button on is that pipe cleaners aren't necessary for most people.
I don't know where you got the idea about me taking pride in knowing stuff about cars. I don't know all that much. I do know enough to get me by. And it just so happens that getting a MAF sensor clean happens to be one of those things, seeing as I've owned the zetec for 4 years.
With that said, just keep acting like a big shot if it makes you feel better. Continue to tell people to take usually unnecessary steps. Continue to not understand what I post. It only hurts you and others that chose to overlook the common knowledge collected by me and others over years of contour ownership.
I could really care less if you use a pipe cleaner, a hair brush, or whatever you have to clean your MAF. The fact stands that spray cleaner works fine the majority of the time.
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Originally posted by Mustang:
Blahh blahh blahh yadda yadda yadda..my big brown boot up you A$$
This thread was meant to show an alternate and perhaps better way to clean a MAF sensor. It wasn't meant to be a political discussion on the fine points of using a fuzzy pipe cleaner. I know this can be troubling to some ppl but you really need to understand the concepts behind this "how to". It's nothing personal and nothing that can really hurt your ego, it's just good info to digest and learn from.
HAHAHA.
I understand the how-to and its purpose. I just simply pointed out that pipe cleaners aren't usually needed.
If anyone ego is hurt, it's probably buttons. I'm sorry button, I didn't mean to make you angry but people do have a right to know other, correct ways of cleaning the MAF.
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91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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Yes, this is really pissing me off.  To properly clean your MAF you need to physically wipe off any residue!!! Stop encouraging people from doing otherwise! Just because using the spray kinda works doesn't mean that everyone should do it. I have never received a CEL because of a dirty MAF. You have. Maybe if you followed all of the required steps, you wouldn't have that problem. Please drop the argument and let this How-to be. As-is I'm tempted to contact the Mod to delete all of this arguing crap and lock the thread. It's making it difficult to read.
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Sorry it's making you mad.
I don't understand. To me, properly is what works. For many of us through the years, spray cleaner has worked just fine. That includes me, sleeperz, and hector. I think we all have decent experience with our zetecs.
Now you're right, just because the spray cleaner works, doesn't mean everyone should do it. It'd be a boring place if everyone did the same thing and nothing new would ever happen. For those that just what to do what works, the spray cleaner is for them. Like I said, there is probably a hundred ways to clean a MAF that will work. Feel free to do it however you want.
Umm, I didn't know anything about cleaning the MAF until I got a CEL from a dirty MAF. Well duh, of course if I kept it clean I would never have gotten a CEL. 
After getting a CEL, I followed the required steps (cleaning the MAF with spray cleaner) and it's gone. Now I just have to do that once a year and it'll stay away.
Again, people have the right to know different ways of doing things. Your way works. So does spraying it with cleaner. Don't get angry about that. And besides, all the usefull information in this thread is in your first post. The rest is just banter and humor. Doesn't make your first post hard to read, which I think was a good how to, even if taking unnecessary steps.
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I have to agree with frog, good reading, who doesn't love a good debate, better than TV I'd say! Anyway I use pipe cleaners, and it works for me...now if i could just get this damn 1405 code to go away...but I have tried everything mentioned in the archives and it just wont disappear...hmmm...
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You guys shoulda taken this to PMs long ago. I used just electronics spray on my V-6 Contour & it worked just fine. My little Zetec, on the other hand, required some scrubbing of the MAF elements to get them properly operational. So, the method depends on the specific need.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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True. I'm still thinking about contacting the mod and having them delete everything after Ray's post.
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Ben,
I am new to the fourm and must say this site rocks.....
My 99 SE just got coaded with 171.
So after 10 mins. of reading posts and 20 mins. to remove, clean, (with pipe cleaners)install, and reset computer, my SE runs better then it has in a long time. I used eletronic equipment cleaner and Clean Safe moisture free dust remover(air in a can)to blow dry. I used it because a lot of compressors have lots of moisture in them.
Again I just want to thank all of you on the site.
Ed
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Awesome, I'm glad that I could help. You're also VERY right about using canned air. Not only does an air compressor's air have quite a bit of moisture in it, it also has some oil.  You really don't to make matters worse. BTW, I just let mine air dry. The contact cleaner dries very quickly. It wouldn't hurt the engine if it got sucked in anyway. BP
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