Originally posted by eyevancsu:
Originally posted by MaddMike:
In reply to RandyCSVT, Whether they are American or Hispanic they all start here at $7.50 an hour. It's a Union meat plant. This is not bad money for this area of Ohio. There is plenty of places around here for Hispanics to learn English, if you will notice that in my earlier post I stated that they claim to not understand, implying that they use this to get out of doing work. What you do not seam to grasp is the fact that our forefathers built this country with thier sweat, thier blood, thier tears, because they wanted a better life for themselves and thier families. They did not come here expecting America to put up signs in German, French, Spanish etc. They came here and became part of America. They did not let phonemes or anything else stop them, They payed thier taxes, got drivers licences and learned the lanuage so that they would fit in.



Show me one hispanic that lies about language or anything else to get out of work and ill show you one more american, or korean, or german that does the same thing, its a universal thing that really doesnt apply here. Immigrants dont want signs per se, but if you want to compare to the old days of your forefathers, what kind of signs were there? Ye olde bank, tavern, store, etc, you didnt have to be a scientist to figure out what they meant just by looking at them.

There are many places that teach english like high schools, community colleges and centers, but to go to those places some time investment is needed, most cant furnish it.

Also, who says that immigrants now-a-days dont go through the same thing your "forefathers" went through? Immigrants arent letting the language barrier stop them, or phonemes or anything b/c they work, just like mentioned before in the high rise building, meat packing plants, etc. Whose to say that immigrants dont pay taxes, dont try to get licenses (which the government is making harder to do) or try to learn the unofficial language?

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We have hispanics in the plant that are not married and claim 6 dependents and don't file taxes, they work for a year or two and then head south. There is a language school in Tallemege Oh. that only charges $150 for a 6 week course. I think they can afford that. They, like me can do anything they want to do if they want it bad enough. Our government makes it to easy for them to take advantage of the system, if they are caught they get a free trip home and can come back in 6 months. I know of one guy here that has been hired by the company three times under three different names. Could I go to another country and do that, I highly dout it. I'm not against LEGAL IMIGRATION, but something needs to be done about illegals besides opening our arms and saying come on in and recieve all the perks of America with out earning them.

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