Originally posted by caltour:
Davo, for example, will deny even the most obvious facts. He will deny that Frist lied despite very clear evidence to the contrary, and despite having no real evidence to support his contention ("It may be thin, but it's thick enough for me," Davo says proudly). He has done the same in previous threads about Bush, DeLay, and others.


How many times must I explain this? It is my opinion that Senator Frist was not intentionally trying to mislead anyone. Therefore, it is not my opinion that he 'lied'. You may find this completely ridiculous and brand me as an ultra right-wing Bushslave because of that, and that's fine with me; you doing so makes you look no better than me.

Originally posted by caltour:
Here is the big-picture lesson that I am learning from threads like this one: in order to buy into the Bush/Cheney/Frist/DeLay/Santorum agenda, you have to be willing to ignore overwhelming evidence. You must be willing to believe in things without the kind of objective evidence that a reasonable person would require. It requires a kind of self-induced suspension of normal reasoning.


At least you're starting to learn from threads. Next maybe you'll learn to stop when you get your ass handed to you by JaTo.

Originally posted by caltour:
2) It may be fun for awhile to debate with someone who refuses to acknowledge the utter lack of factual foundation for their opinions (it's like meeting someone who believes the earth is flat), but after a while it's just sad.


Here is the definition of opinion from Dictionary.com: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof. According to you, every opinion is subject to logical and factual analysis before it is considered sensical. Even if an opinion counter to yours survived your logical and factual analysis, you'd still invent some way to try and make the holder look like an idiot. Given the facts of the Frist situation, you and Viss1 like to think there is some grand right wing conspiracy to try and make the public forget what Frist said about Schiavo. That's as ridiculous to me as you my opinion probably is to you, but I don't expect you to understand that in the vaccuum you obviously live in.