i agree with you ray, and thanks for the pic tip, I'll try that next time. As for the tips flush with the bumper idea, that is the way I originally planned it, however, she has alot of miles on her (205k plus) and seems to have quite a carbon buildup problem which has been evident for a few years now ( even after I rebuilt the top end~head gasket,timing chains etc...~ and periodically clean out the UIM/LIM) She tends to spit out some nasty black stuff on hard accelleration and i figured it would really blacken the bumper up. But I 'm still considering cutting the pipes back an inch or two and smoothing out the rest.
