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The problem is we even bother to "capture" terrorists. How about simply shooting them? How is it one second these pos' are shooting at our soldiers and the next putting up their hands and saying, "opps sorry I surrender now?" They were just trying to kill YOU seconds ago. Reciprocate! Save us the trouble of incarcerating them. They are not wartime combatants, they are terrorists and geneva rules should not apply to them. The time is long past for coddling these people.
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Originally posted by Davo:
All the people that are screaming in rage over even the idea that the Quran was abused at Gitmo, and claiming that the United States military are completely ignoring the civil rights of the terrorists (not 'detainees')
Since when have the people at Gitmo been charged with a crime? At what point did they all become terrorists? Do you have some insight as to what each of them specficially did to receive that label, or is this another blanket statement with no facts behind it?
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Quote:
The problem is we even bother to "capture" terrorists. How about simply shooting them?
Intel, my friend. Its the way you win a war against an entrenched enemy.
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Since when have the people at Gitmo been charged with a crime? At what point did they all become terrorists? Do you have some insight as to what each of them specficially did to receive that label, or is this another blanket statement with no facts behind it?
The simple fact that they were in a war-zone, most had weapons on/around them, and many were captured during combat. The fact is, if they're "so innocent" then it should be easy to prove for them, and they'd be out by now. Of course, if we can link you to suspicious travel, or militant groups then it makes that a bit harder. You seem to be under the guise that we simply incarcerate people for the hell of it. God I'm glad we don't rely on your logic to keep us safe.
Now from the article:
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The summaries of FBI interviews, obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union as part of an ongoing lawsuit, include a dozen allegations that the Koran was kicked, thrown to the floor or withheld as punishment. One prisoner said in August 2002 that guards had "flushed a Koran in the toilet" and had beaten some detainees.
When did an allegation become proof, 18psi2300? Seems you're grasping at straws again.
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Originally posted by zgendron:
Since when have the people at Gitmo been charged with a crime? At what point did they all become terrorists? Do you have some insight as to what each of them specficially did to receive that label, or is this another blanket statement with no facts behind it?
Eh, typical response. 
What do you suggest we do with the 'detainees' at Gitmo?
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by zgendron:
Since when have the people at Gitmo been charged with a crime? At what point did they all become terrorists? Do you have some insight as to what each of them specficially did to receive that label, or is this another blanket statement with no facts behind it?
Eh, typical response.
What do you suggest we do with the 'detainees' at Gitmo?
Here's a brilliant idea, CHARGE THEM OR RELEASE THEM
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by ODC:
Seriously, what happened to America's dignity ?
America's? What about Canada's? LOL!
what does Canada have to do with this? Keep your garbage to yourslef and dont go dragging other countries into this.
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Originally posted by loggerbomb:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by ODC:
Seriously, what happened to America's dignity ?
America's? What about Canada's? LOL!
what does Canada have to do with this? Keep your garbage to yourslef and dont go dragging other countries into this.
The fact that he is from Canada and is criticizing the United States is what Canada has to do with this. IMHO compared to Canda we still have our dignity.
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Originally posted by loggerbomb:
what does Canada have to do with this? Keep your garbage to yourslef and dont go dragging other countries into this.
Gee, wherever do they get the stereotype that Canadians are up-tight morons? 
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Originally posted by zgendron:
Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by zgendron:
Since when have the people at Gitmo been charged with a crime? At what point did they all become terrorists? Do you have some insight as to what each of them specficially did to receive that label, or is this another blanket statement with no facts behind it?
Eh, typical response.
What do you suggest we do with the 'detainees' at Gitmo?
Here's a brilliant idea, CHARGE THEM OR RELEASE THEM
'Scuse me, I see it a bit differently. They're not citizens of the US or even criminals & shouldn't be given the privileges of citizenship. They're enemy combatants and have no right to due process under US laws that are in place to protect the rights of US citizens.
Their capture & detention is a military matter & subject to the military system. Since they are not part of a military force that is associated with a particular nation-state that is a signatory of the Convention, they don't get those privileges either. There are other guidelines on how they are to be classified & treated, & none of the media seems to acknoledge that.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by loggerbomb:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by ODC:
Seriously, what happened to America's dignity ?
America's? What about Canada's? LOL!
what does Canada have to do with this? Keep your garbage to yourslef and dont go dragging other countries into this.
The fact that he is from Canada and is criticizing the United States is what Canada has to do with this. IMHO compared to Canda we still have our dignity.
We have our share of turds, as does any country - even Canada. Overall, the Canadian people I've grown up with, dated, known, & otherwise met have typically been good people. The current political climate has generated some un-needed friction across the border, but that will pass.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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