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Originally posted by ODC:
Seriously, what happened to America's dignity ?
America's? What about Canada's? LOL!
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Originally posted by Corbett:
America's? What about Canada's? LOL!
Is that your answer ? Changing the subject ?
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Originally posted by ODC:
Desecrating a religious item is really, really not acceptable.
I didn't see you complaining when the Taliban destroyed holy Buddhist shrines, or an 'artist' painted feces over an image of Mary, or an 'artist' placing a cross in a jar of their own urine (with public funds, I might add). That's just a couple examples of the desecration of religious images that have occurred that the left has passed on as art.
That gives me an idea, if it is true that someone flushed pages of the Quran down the toilet, he/she who did it should claim it was artistic expression. That should give them a free pass at least among the American left.
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Originally posted by Davo:
...That gives me an idea, if it is true that someone flushed pages of the Quran down the toilet, he/she who did it should claim it was artistic expression. That should give them a free pass at least among the American left.
No F**KING sh!t. It would be a brilliant retort, in that it was an artistic attempt by the US Army to introduce "Performance Art" to a foreign culture and audience...
...perhaps they could get the ACLU behind them?
The whining I'm hearing about a couple of Korans being abused by some dipsh!t Private in the Army smacks of stupidity at it's finest, especially since the abuse that the Bible and Christian imagery takes in this country is considered an artform...
I find any abuse of most any religious icons or literature ignorant and disgusting to say the least, but only slightly less disgusting than those that are trying to prop up some consipracy theory or organized Western attack on Islam though actions like this and then use it as political collateral against the current administration.
Somewhere at some time I'm sure there was a Koran or two abused in front of a couple of prisoners by a few rather dull-witted soldiers. Fine; nail their hides to the wall, make an example of them, etc., etc.
Of course, if we were like the REST of the world, they wouldn't have access to the Korans in the first bloody place, would they?
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Originally posted by Davo:
I didn't see you complaining when the Taliban destroyed holy Buddhist shrines, or an 'artist' painted feces over an image of Mary, or an 'artist' placing a cross in a jar of their own urine (with public funds, I might add). That's just a couple examples of the desecration of religious images that have occurred that the left has passed on as art.
I wasn't aware of either of those. And if your'e going to ask, yes I think those actions are wrong and disrespectful.
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FWIW the Koran is considered a bit differently to Muslims than the Bible is to Christians. Not being much of a religious scholar, I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but it has something to do with the Koran being a literal representation of God... unlike the Bible, which Christians consider to be the Word of God as recorded by mortals. So Muslims consider the desecration of a Koran to be the desecration of God. Just thought I'd throw this out there for edification.
FWIW I agree with those who say they're lucky to get the treatment they're getting. On the other hand, since the US went in under the guise of bringing peace and democracy to the ME, we do deserve to be held to a higher standard.
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Many books are made of an organism that was transferred about through birdsh!t and if not, it was planted by man but bathed in manure and fertilizer, which usually consists of a fair amount of sh!t...
..but I'm sure this escapes militant extremists that view the Koran as a "piece of God".
I wonder which hand Muslims use to turn the pages of that book? It seems like it really wouldn't matter...
The irony simply kills me.
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Oh, you mean the people responsible for flushing a holy book down the toilet didn't admit to doing it to the FBI. 
Oh, so you'll take the word of alleged terrorist detainees without consideration to, or even asking for, statements of the trained US personnel that are in that facility??
You'll take at face value the statements of people who, as evidenced by their own actions, want to kill Americans, ruin the credibility of the US on the world stage, destabilize the new Iraqi government, and corrupt governments around the world to suit their own needs?
I can see you're a thinking man.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by JaTo:
Originally posted by Davo:
...That gives me an idea, if it is true that someone flushed pages of the Quran down the toilet, he/she who did it should claim it was artistic expression. That should give them a free pass at least among the American left.
No F**KING sh!t. It would be a brilliant retort, in that it was an artistic attempt by the US Army to introduce "Performance Art" to a foreign culture and audience...
...perhaps they could get the ACLU behind them?
AND some funding from Hollywood?...
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Yea, we can do whatever we damn please to their holy book becuase we let them have it in the first place.
The point is that the military makes life a lot better for these scum than they deserve or would ever recipricate. I've heard that the official policy of the military is to only let Muslim personal handle the Koran. That is going out of the way to be sensitive, that's the point.
I am not at all religeous,to me its just a book, but for others it is something sacred,i guess what i mean is, they shouldnt have treated the koran liek that so that people in the mid east wouldnt be protesting liek they are now, tensions are bad enough
But more importantly then the treatment of the Koran,is how america treats the prisinors, i agree with steve-o 100%,they don't deserve to be treated so well.Say holy books for example, you guys think that they give americans bibles if they are captures by these [censored]?I highly doubt it.
People complain that american soldiers beat these pricks?boo [censored] hoo. What about when an american is captured, has his throat slit, and the video is posted online.
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