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The Soviets usually (if not always) had a numerical advantage in warheads. However, our means for delivery and overall strategy were always superior, and made their advantage insignificant.
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Originally posted by Davo:
The Soviets usually (if not always) had a numerical advantage in warheads. However, our means for delivery and overall strategy were always superior, and made their advantage insignificant.
I know, I was part of the delivery team in the late 80's and early 90's 
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Wow this thread is out of control.
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Originally posted by BOFH:
I do admit, there were a good number of US generals and other leaders (US and her allies) who felt like perhaps after getting done with Germany in WWII we should have continued east...
to make the same mistake hitler and napolean made. no thank you
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United States > Hitler > Napoleon
There was a scenario in an old WWII strategy game that I played that had us pairing with the German army to go after the Red Army. It was quite chilling. I think it was Patton who was the greatest advocate of that idea.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
Even the editorials and op-ed pieces suck; in the quest for reporting in a balanced way the reporters seemed to have forgotten they can have an opinion.
Psst, Sean, there isn't even an attempt to be balanced. If editorials were balanced, they wouldn't exactly be opinions, would they?
Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
Also they are so afraid of what the FCC or others will do if they practice free speech. That is another thread though.
WTF are you talking about? 
In the quest for being balanced they forget that they can have an opinion in the op-ed pieces. They try to be so balanced they neve take a position.
The second point, I have no idea. I was very hungover.
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Originally posted by BOFH:
Kruschev pounding his shoe on his desk in the UN in 1956 and shouting to the US delegation, "We will bury you." doesn't fill me with a sense of love and well wishes from the then Soviet delegation.
FWIW he was making an economic/trade claim at the time, not military... but I'm being a bit nit-picky.
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my thinking was that everyone who has invaded russia in recent history has had their asses handed to them. with that in mind i will settle for keeping them at bay.
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Originally posted by BOFH:
Originally posted by R_G:
Originally posted by Davo:
but you'd think they'd at least remember that without America's nuclear umbrella, the USSR would have invaded, or at least attempted to invade, most of Europe.
Davo, would you mind citing your sources por favor.
I'm not sure I can bring up the invasion plans, but Kruschev pounding his shoe on his desk in the UN in 1956 and shouting to the US delegation, "We will bury you." doesn't fill me with a sense of love and well wishes from the then Soviet delegation.
I do admit, there were a good number of US generals and other leaders (US and her allies) who felt like perhaps after getting done with Germany in WWII we should have continued east...
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1945 to 1956 is 11 years and the fundamental change in the Soviet leadership (after Uncle Joe death in 1953). Also, the spread of Communism wasn't quite a simple matter for them - since more or less during the same period Red Communist China became one of their most significant adversaries - culminating in the border clashes around 1968.
But all of the above is besides the point. As I said, I didn't know whether such plans did exist - according to Davo's previous post - and our assumptions don't click right with the history.
Knowing and experiencing the afflictions of Communism first hand - I would still be inclined to say that the post WWII occupation of the Eastern Europe had more to deal with creating a buffer for the future wars than spreading Communism world wide. That's why the Soviets agreed to pull their troops from Austria (good for Wien Sean LOL) around 1953.
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Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
They would inept to let the union fall apart.
They're not wasting any time though... link
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